September 10, 2007 at 6:46 am #311yParticipant
These were my first and only dedicated rifle scopes. I bought them both at the same time as each had features I wanted and I didnt know which I would keep.
Yukon NVRS – Generation 1
Comes in a nylon case that has cutouts so you can cover the scope with the case while its still mounted to the gun. Small and compact device, light weight, weaver rails on the top and side for accessory mounting, built in illuminator and I beleive the case is titanium which helps with the weight. uses a single CR123 battery and comes with a remote control and camera adapter – The camera adapter didnt work with any of my camera’s and the remote is kinda big so I didnt bother with it.
ATN Paladin Aries 390 – Generation 1 +
Came in a very nice SKS waterproof Pelican style case with cutouts for extra batteries and the detachable illuminator. Illuminator and scope each require 1 CR123 battery each.
The illuminator is very nice and has its own adjustable windage and elevation adjustament along with variable brightnes and beam width. Mounts to a small weaver rail on the top of the scope (Some versions use a screw and dont have weaver).
As you can see, the gun is a little bit tall with the scope and illuminator so I mounted the illuminator off to the side, and was able to perfectly align it with the scopes FOV thanks to the elevation and windage adjustments.
Both scopes use Weaver Rails so I used a B-Square weaver rail to 11mm adapter. Because of the already High Air Force scope rail, the weaver rail in addition to the NV scopes both mounting higher than regular scopes the finaly position is rather high and somewhat further back then I would have chosen. I could have mounted the scopes further forward by moving the wearer rail, but it didnt bother me much and I was using a quick release weaver mounted scope for daytime use so I didnt want to throw the postion of my dayscope off. I soon got used to the somewhat higher and further back than normal mounting and I could have fashioned some kind of cheek peice to raise my eye up a bit if I wanted.
Both scopes gave good pictures for Generation 1 Devices. I had last used a Gen 1 Bushnell Night Owl which suffers very badly from fish eye and has a small FOV. All Gen 1 suffers from Fisheye (curved appearance of image at the extremities) to some extant, both of these had very little.
ATN on the left – Yukon on the right
Car 70 Yards (Rangefinder) away without any additional IR Illumination
Same shot, but this time using each devices illuminator.
Building is 80 Yards away.
While both devices have good better than normal (in my experience) gen 1 images.. the ATN beats the Yukon thanks to its slighter larger diameter objective lens, higher magnification and its MUCH more powerful IR Illuminator. I think the single biggest reason for the better image was the IR, Illuminator GREATLY improves Gen 1 devices.
Here is another shot with the Yukon when the street lamps where turned on showing how much a little extra light helps.
All these pictures were taken using a 10 year old 0.7 Megapixel point and shoot camera. ALL images were better through the viewfinder than I can reproduce via photo here. As an example, the rabbit in this next picture was 20 yards away and very clearly visible through the ATN with a well defined outline, but in the picture below only its eye is clear thanks to the reflection from the IR, which is another reason why good IR helps, you can see more, it gives you more detail AND you can clearly see preys eyes reflection.
I took the picture so the crosshairs werent obsuring the rabbit (if you didnt find the rabbit yet, that bright spot to the lower right of the crosshair is its left eye), I shot the rabbit a short time later.
All in all, I kept the ATN due to its higher magnification and slightly better image. the Yukon was cheaper, smaller and lighter and I would have been more than happy with it. I just picked the best image.
I eventually sold the ATN as well because I went to Gen 3 and couldnt justify the need to keep two NV devices.September 10, 2007 at 8:15 am #24144eamoParticipant
Very informative, just what I needed to know, thanks.
EamoSeptember 10, 2007 at 1:22 pm #24149
i have the yukon one mate and find it good enough for upto 80yds but when u add a good ir unti u will get a better picture ..now it,s going up for sale as i,ve got a gen 2 but i do like the yukonSeptember 10, 2007 at 1:35 pm #24151yParticipant
I really liked the Yukon, I had the 2.5 x 42, I’m sure the 50mm version has a brighter image.
I thought about keeping it and buying the Yukon external IR that Bones used. If I had of sold the ATN first instead of the Yukon, I might have kept the Yukon when I finally got Gen 3 because it was a lot less bulky than the ATN… trade off you get I guess. Yukon do make nice Gen 1’s though. The Yukon did real well when I used it with the ATN illuminator… Illumination really is key with Gen 1’s.
I was able to take Rabbit and Coyote with both NV devices during the short time I had them…. so they both work well, Yukon is cheaper and can be had for a good price on ebay too.September 10, 2007 at 4:58 pm #24162
ye i have the 50mm one and i also have the doubler for it with a second ir unit but sadley to say it,s going up for sale this week as soon as i check out my new gen 2 + can,t wait to get out with it 😀September 10, 2007 at 5:48 pm #24164walkonkingParticipantquote rabbits:
Please take some picts when you get it. We would love to see some of that countryside where you hunt. We expect to see you live up to your name…September 10, 2007 at 6:55 pm #24166anthony266Keymaster
Great post Ross,
Good to know we have some real knowledgeable NV members here..September 11, 2007 at 10:56 am #24228
only got a few pics off daylight shootiing the now but i,ll try and get some off us out on saturday night if we get out this is me besuide one off the old falls we have . me waiting for my chance at rabbit hill.. and the fox we got a week past 😀
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