Thoughts on Dieseling?
Any thoughts on Dieseling?
-Also, is there a “best way” to make a pellet diesel?
-Has anyone dieseled with their AF? (Is this blasphemous?)
-What is the threshold for something to be able to diesil?
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Basically, yes. Lubricant, under high pressure can ignite and explode if it’s contained, and that is the last thing that you want happening with a huge tank of high pressure air next to your face.
By the way, how dieseling could happen in a PCP (AF guns)?
I heard it’s rare, but not impossible… how? Maybe some petrol lubricant inside the air tank???
Many moons ago I had an old Diana air rifle (break barrel) and ised to oil the pellets in the tin with 3in1.
It didn’t take long for it to smash the spring guide AND the spring as well as snap the lick off the cocking lever!
Dieseling simply is NOT worth the effort just buy a PCP and bore out the transfer port and increase the hammer velocity (maybe port the valve too)
Better results and at a lower cost than replacing the bits I had to replace 🙄
I did some test with my Gamo CF-20 to find the reason for unstable shot speeds. I dissassemled it and cleaned all grease and dirt with â€
I remember when I was a teeneager making my $20 Chinese springer diesel with WD40 and might explain it’s INCREDIBLY poor performance now. It was an underlever cocking springer and I thought it shot around 600-650fps and last year it chronied 200fps 😆 I had NO idea why it’s performance went to crap as I hadn’t shot it in a long time.
It was a lot of fun to put exploding caps on/in the end of the pellets too 😆
Man those were the days 😀 care free and having fun, now it’s just looking out for somehting that is going to hurt or kill me making money and paying bills! 😆 😆 😆 picking up birds with plastic bags, wondering where the pellet is going to go after I shoot it 😆 my how things have changed….
Ignorance was bliss , Jim.
If you want to hear something go crack…buy a condor and shoot some light pellet’s..brakin the sound barrier with an airgun is wicked…….
It was the Baracuda and did use ether.
The current gun made today the is proud of its dieseling is the Mendoza air gun. They advocate putting oil in the airchamber for just this reason
each time the rifle was fired it would measure out an amount of oil to be burnt off….
it never got consistent, and flopped
diesling can occur in PCP but as said rarely the pressure is for the most part not up to it….
the violent compression and 5000 psi generated for a short while in a springer is what makes the oil burn, just like in a diesel engine
it will wear the rifle alot….and not a good idea…
my childhood friends rifle could recock it self with a drop of motor oil in the transfer port….pressure was so great that the piston was forced all the way back to its cocking point….very powerfull too definatly super sonic…but no accuracy….
if you wanna play with diesling, do your self the favor and do it with a 10-30 dollar chinese springers out there
that rifle was a Weihrauch Barracuda if i remember correctly, and i thought it had a little ether pump on the side that you would squeeze a little ether in with before every shot
forgot….if diesling has the power to bulge out the cylinder of a springer….then imagine what it can do in a delrin breech of an AF rifle !!!
boom and plastic in face !
hmm there was one company that made a diesling springer…the baracuda/kodiac pellet was invented for that rifle…
each time the rifle was fired it would measure out an amount of oil to be burnt off….
it never got consistent, and flopped
diesling can occur in PCP but as said rarely the pressure is for the most part not up to it….
the violent compression and 5000 psi generated for a short while in a springer is what makes the oil burn, just like in a diesel engine
it will wear the rifle alot….and not a good idea…
my childhood friends rifle could recock it self with a drop of motor oil in the transfer port….pressure was so great that the piston was forced all the way back to its cocking point….very powerfull too definatly super sonic…but no accuracy….
if you wanna play with diesling, do your self the favor and do it with a 10-30 dollar chinese springers out there
Coldshot: as mentioned, dieselling is not a desirable effect, and is something that is mainly seen in spring guns, not pcps. That being said, just lube your pellets in WD-40 and away you go.
I’m going to move this thread to Other Guns as it won’t have anything to do with the AirForce range of rifles.
Dieseling occurs when a pellet has a touch of oil on it and detonates. This does not occur in PCP, or if it does, it’s rare. This happens in spring piston airguns and most notably in new guns that the grease has not burnt off or by improper lubing by folks who don’t know any better.
A ‘best’ way to make a pellet diesel? Why don’t you just take your gun and bang it on the concrete….? Dieseling is not good for guns. The detonation can eat up piston seals in short order resulting in a loss of power. In extreme cases, the piston or compression chamber may be irreparably damaged. Sure, it’s cool to hear the ‘crack’ when it happens, but for shits sake, if you want noise, go buy some firecrackers, or at least just let out a loud fart.
pellets that diesel are inaccurate and unstable. Velocity is uncontrollable in a diesel situation. I know of no one who ‘tries’ to make their guns diesel other than perhaps 13 year old kids who like loud noises.
Not to sound harsh, but holy shit… why would someone WANT to diesel their gun and possibly damage it?
Dieseling is an undesirable effect. These guns shoot plenty fast and you don’t gain anything from adding combustable oils such as WD-40. If you’d like to risk damaging your rifle, or yourself… go for it.
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Yeah… that would be ugly… 👿
But just a tiny little amount of lub can explode an air tank?
Man… just applied some oil to a few pellets… I guess I’ll ask my sister to shoot them… hehehehehehe…
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