Talon, Condor safety off question?

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  • #1921
    waynejitsu
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    When getting ready for a shot, to be safe, I keep the safety on, when I see something move, I check it out through the scope (safety is still on), if it is something I want to shoot (aka, kill), I obviously have to click off the safety, however, it is a PITA, almost impossible to do with your trigger finger, so I wind up using my right hand to click the safety (I am left handed), at this point, the “victom” is no longer in my sights.

    Is there a better way to shut the safety off?
    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks!!!

    #37511
    dkowen
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    Sure there’s an easy way to deal with the safety, click it off when you mount the gun to come on target.

    It’s all about rule number one, the one about never pointing the dangerous end at something you don’t intend to shoot.

    It is not safe to use your scope for ‘checking out movement’. It automatically points your gun at an unknown (quite possibly another person or a pet). This is something covered in hunter education, you should have heard all about it in the process of getting your license.

    The right way to do it is use your spotting scope (which is why it’s called a spotting scope…) or binoculars to look for game.

    Doug Owen

    #37520
    waynejitsu
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    quote DKOwen:

    Sure there’s an easy way to deal with the safety, click it off when you mount the gun to come on target.
    Doug Owen

    That is not too safe. I click my safety off when I am ready to shoot and on target, not “coming” to the target, I am already there before disengauging the safety.
    Too many things can happen on the way to the target.

    You do it your way and I will do it my way

    😈

    #37524
    synopsys
    Participant

    You could try a safety release thingy like this….

    Ernest Rowe’s website about airguns

    Makes it all trigger finger capable… 😉

    #37525
    mikeledbetter
    Participant

    I use the thumb of my right hand and then return to shooting position. Hope that helps.

    #37527
    dkowen
    Participant
    quote waynejitsu:

    That is not too safe. I click my safety off when I am ready to shoot and on target, not “coming” to the target, I am already there before disengauging the safety.
    Too many things can happen on the way to the target.

    You do it your way and I will do it my way

    😈

    That’s precisely the point, trusting the safety is not safe. Your technique in fact mandates that you’ve pointed your muzzle at the trarget (and everything around it) before you’ve identified it as the target.

    And a bunch of stuff that wasn’t a legitimate target as well.

    You are absolutely right that ‘too many things can happen on the way to the target’, which is why the primary safety rule is to not point the muzzle at anything not identified as a target already. “Buck fever” not withstanding.

    You’ll note none of the three safety rules mentions safeties? This is not an oversight. Trusting safeties is a known source of grief.

    I’ll continue to ‘do it the NRA way’, and recommend the same. As I said before, it’s important enough to get coverage in hunter ed classes. “Don’t use your scope to look for game” isn’t my idea, I heard it somewhere….. As is ‘don’t trust safeties’ come to think of it.

    Doug Owen

    #37531
    waynejitsu
    Participant

    You have added nothing to my question.
    Hijacking a thread is not cool.

    If you would like to stay on course, fine, but drifting off like that is childish and adds nothing to the information aspect.

    #37532
    waynejitsu
    Participant

    synopsys and MikeLedbetter-

    Thanks for the info, very much appreciated:)
    I will give it a shot, LOL!!

    #37533
    shrpshotr28
    Participant

    wayne,

    apparently dk would be more comfortable with a spotting scope to identify the target and a gun with no safety (they are not to be trusted).

    I do agree looking through a scope is not the best way to determine what is or isnt a target; but I’m with you as far as I have a target, follow it through the scope (safety on) and click off the safety only just before actually ready to shoot.

    cheers

    don

    #37535
    pilgrim
    Participant

    waynejitsu, you asked a legitimate question and DKOwen gave you a legitimate answer. If you don’t want your question answered, don’t ask the fucking question.

    #37537
    pilgrim
    Participant

    oops, forgot the smiley face 😀

    #37563
    waynejitsu
    Participant

    The question” was NOT answered if you bothered to read any of this at all (seems everyone else was able to understand the question and address it intelligently.)

    The question was about the safety being a PITA to shut off and looking for a mod to make it more efficient to use, I asked-
    “Is there a better way to shut the safety off?”

    I did not ask if there was a “better time” to shut off the safety.
    I did not solicit a safety course, just asked a simple question.

    I am always amazed at the lack of reading comprehension…, just amazing, as well as having to resort to 4 letter slang words because of lack of vocabulary to convey one’s thoughts.
    🙄

    #37566
    walkonking
    Participant

    Take a look at this. This will make using the safety much easier.

    From Leupy’s Shop in the U.K. The saftey should be easy enough to make for yourself.

    #37572
    mattmedic
    Participant

    LOL that’s just what i’ve got coming 😉

    Nearly there now…Just a camo paint job to do 😀

    Matt

    #37578
    pilgrim
    Participant

    Wayne, I like to think of expletives as enhancements to my vocabulary, not as crutches. Many don’t agree. 🙄

    If your going to ask a question, you’ll get direct answers and and others will offer other methods. No one knows your background and many newbies read the forums too, so your question isn’t just for your own benefit.

    If you get agitated by childish hijacking of a thread, you’ve come to the wrong forum, brother. 😯

    Wok, that is a VERY cool safety.

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