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October 25, 2007 at 3:09 pm #635
What an amazing gun, the centerpoint scope that Greg at AZ zero’d for me is dead on at 30 yards!
I was kinda supprised though, at full power I only got about 6 or 8 shots out of a tank, is that normal?
I have a 1’x2′ 1/8″ thick steel plate in the back yard that I use for plinking and the heavy Ein Junn pellets dented in the plate almost 1/8″ I was very impressed!!
Also it wasnt as loud as I was anticipating, I am very impressed, I cant wait to do more shooting!
RyanOctober 25, 2007 at 3:33 pm #26490
6 shots and then the POI changes at 30 yards?
Doesnt sound normal to me….
Whats the pressure you fill too, and whats left in the tank when you refill after 6 shots ?October 25, 2007 at 3:55 pm #26492
I have been filling to about 2800 psi, and its not a poi change I was noticing, the sound changes, it gets MUCH quieterOctober 25, 2007 at 6:06 pm #26505
the first few shots are probably going super sonic, that creates a loud crack. After a few shots sounds like the velocity is dropped just enough to be below speed of sound reducing the noise considerably.
To test that, shoot something heavier and the gun will be a lot quieter and more powerful.
Sounds like your gun is fine. If I were your I’d just turn the wheel down a tad until it no longer goes super sonic to start and you’ll have a quieter gun and even more shots.
See how many shots you get before POI changes. Thats your number of shots right there.October 25, 2007 at 7:12 pm #26512
Talked to Airforce and they said it sounds like my gun has the older defective tank valve and they have a new tank and valve on the way to me, great customer service! Will keep you guys posted.
RyanOctober 25, 2007 at 11:55 pm #26527
Did they actually use the word defective ?October 26, 2007 at 12:00 am #26529airtrampParticipantquote Yellow Ninja:
Yup. Same here. How else can you call it no charge warranty repair/replacement?October 26, 2007 at 12:46 pm #26571
I am not sure thoughOctober 26, 2007 at 1:09 pm #26573quote AirTramp:
Well the gun has a LIFETIME warranty.. but they only offer the no charge warranty replacement thing if you bought the gun within the last year.
If they are using the word defective then they need to offer it to everyone no matter when they bought the gun so long as the terms of the warranty are met otherwise.
If they just want to limit it to purchases within the past year then they should be saying that its a routine upgrade they are just offering to recent purchasers as a courtesy.October 26, 2007 at 9:35 pm #26595airtrampParticipant
YN, they didn’t say the design was defective and never mentioned a running upgrade. Just sorry that I’ve got a defective one that’s not working properly i.e. an individual case.
Like you said previously, AF probably rushed the HF tanks out to fulfill a market demand and didn’t spend the time to take care of logistics or refining the design for the different markets. I’m glad they called to find out the calibre of my gun to make sure I get the right valve spring. I have to give them credit for that. In fact, they have a CSR that’s very nice/easy to talk to.October 26, 2007 at 9:42 pm #26596
Yvette ?October 26, 2007 at 9:48 pm #26597anthony266Keymaster
I bet its the girl, Rachel.
She sounds like a real sweetheart.
Miss Yvette can get a little uppity now and then.October 26, 2007 at 9:49 pm #26598synopsysParticipant
Hmm, that would lead me to believe that any not correctly functioning valve (ie; not working at full fill) would be considered defective. And I would even go as far as to say that all Condor valves that don’t fire at full fill (as advertised) would therefore be defective and would qualify as needing to be replaced under factory defects addressed under the lifetime warranty.
Where is our forum lawyer? We got a class-action deal going here! 😆
I know that if I received a Condor that would not shoot at a full fill, that POS would be going right back where it came from. WTF is up with products these days?!?!? 😯 At least the new version fixes it, more than I can say for ALL software (except the SoftChrono) out there…
I think someone with a little tact should call up and say, I got a Condor 2 years ago and it has NEVER worked at a full fill, is this normal, sounds like the valve is defective to me, since it doesn’t work as advertised? This should be covered by the warranty right, it is defective since it doesn’t work, etc, etc…?
They do have a CSR that is easy to talk to but feeds new users false information, at least I was fed a line of BS about some of the differences between the Condor and the SS frames…October 26, 2007 at 10:06 pm #26601AnonymousInactive
I have spoken with Rachael on numerous occasions and I think she exemplifies customer service.
DHOctober 26, 2007 at 11:09 pm #26611
Yvette is 100x the woman that this “rachel” is….
what a HOTTIE
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