"O" ring mod, or condor Valve???

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  • #1686
    knifemaker
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    I am very happy with the performance of my 18″ bbl. SS. in .22. It has the moded valve, and seems to be doing just fine. However, I am thinking of getting either a condor valve, or have Tony do the “O” ring mod. on one for me. I am still getting a lot of noise from the valve.

    I have had several say that the newer condor valve gives a good shot count, without having to fill to 3000. ( I only have a dive tank, so no 3000 lbs. fills for me! And no one will fill a cf tank here that I can find. So perhaps a condor valve would help me out. Also wanting a .25 bbl. from Tony. I have ask him directly in a couple of threads here, and a PM, but do repli. jI need advice!

    Any help here would be
    appreciated.

    Mike

    #35423
    justforfun
    Participant

    For filling tanks, have you tried your fire dept.?

    #35430
    knifemaker
    Participant

    Yep! Won’t touch a civilian tank!

    #35432
    anthony266
    Keymaster

    Hey Mike,
    My apologies for not getting back sooner.
    If you purchase the whole set from AF you get their idea of an oring which is very thin compared to my 90 durometer oring. But you will get the new valve stem and seal.

    3000 psi fills are overated. Condors shoot better and tighter at 2800psi.

    I also like a power modded stock valve, just finished one shooting Kodiaks at 900fps with 18″ barrel with more shots.

    Hope this helps,
    Tony

    #35437
    walkonking
    Participant

    I thought of getting the new Condor valve but so far I have resisted. I have a modified stock valve with a 16″ barrel and get 855fps with Kodiaks and 955fps with CP’s. The reason is the stock valve gives me more shots then the Condor valve would and I am not really a power junkie like some of the guys here. I like having 40-50 usable shots before having to refill. And since you are a craftsman you should be able to modify your own valve.

    #35442
    teflontron
    Participant

    Tony, you say that 3000psi fills are over-rated, but in your opinion is that solely for stock Condors, or also for those that have been worked on in various ways?

    #35444
    anthony266
    Keymaster

    Strictly talking about accuracy, from my experience, on paper my groups tighten up under 3000psi.

    #35445
    teflontron
    Participant

    Hmm. In theory it should be the velocity that defines the accuracy (if all else is equal), not the psi, so it’s interesting that you have these findings, although you aren’t the only one.

    #35446
    walkonking
    Participant

    It would be interesting to see on slow mo how different pressures affect the pellet as it is in the breech. If the accuracy is improved depending on the pressure I wonder what the actual effect it has on the pellet to change the accuracy?

    #35463
    knifemaker
    Participant

    Thanks for the replies everyone. And thank you Tony! Do you keep “O” ring moded parts in stock? No way I want to be without the SS fr a week or too. It gets used daily!

    Adam, I picked up a Chrony at Sportsman Warehouse first of the week. I only can fill to 2500 right now. Need to get the tank filled. It gave 934 fps with the jsb’s, adn 870 with the Kodiaks. This is .22, 18″ bbl. with the mod. I did on the valve. I am wondering how close I am to the norm for a moded valve. I’m sure with a 2900 psi fill she will be a little faster! I would like to the the Kodiaks up a little higher. These “Texas Critters”, are tough, and far ranging!

    MIke

    #35466
    walkonking
    Participant

    Mike,

    At 2500 psi you are doing well with the Kodiaks. I am getting 855fps with my 16″ barrel and moded valve. So I think you are were you want to be but just do not have enough pressure.

    #35478
    knifemaker
    Participant

    Thanks for the info Adam. If the weather calms down, and I can catch up a little, I will get the tank filled and see where I’m at at 2800-2900 psi.
    Mike

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