December 12, 2014 at 8:05 pm #18333
I checked out hill pump web in order to order 4 pumps for my friends and myself as well,,, i found that they have produced a new hill generation, MK4 …it looks like a great pump,,,and i think it should be great,,,because their MK3 that i have had for almost 2.5 years (i think) was worked very great and very easy to pump ,,and Mk4 must be at least smoother than Mk3 .. who knows ??? ok,,i will buy and try it ,,,,December 12, 2014 at 8:41 pm #215191
Good pumping ! :biggrinn:December 12, 2014 at 8:46 pm #215192
Thanks Ville…. now I got a good muscles because of pumping for the last 4 years.. 😯 😯 😯December 12, 2014 at 9:29 pm #215196
Why don´t you get a tank and stop pumping? You´re too old for that shit my friend. Too old – like The Uncle. 😯
Pumping is bad for your health. Don´t believe me ? Here´s a pic of me two hours after i bought my first Hill Pump:
… and here´s one after two months of pumping. I´m the one on the Wheelchair ..December 12, 2014 at 9:38 pm #215197quote Sir Ville:
i have a refilling problem for tanks,,, i explained the situation before,,, there is only one shop for refilling firefighter tanks that they won’t refill any other tanks unless their brand tanks,,, and the funny thing is ,,,they will not sell tanks ,,, and i have to persuade them to refill foreign tanks then i may able to buy one,,,
By-The-Way… iam just on the top of the curve of life,,, not old like my dear Uncle :hoot: :hoot: …. still i am suing my fuel ,,not Viagra ,,, like my Uncle … :biggrinn: :biggrinn: :biggrinn: :biggrinn:December 12, 2014 at 11:16 pm #215199
Oh dear, haven’t you guys heard of metal detectors? Besides the lead is not THAT expensive to buy that you’d have to to find every round you shot. Of course if it’s an environmental thing and you being Swedish I can (barely) understand that.December 13, 2014 at 12:07 am #215202
donnyflParticipantDecember 13, 2014 at 12:23 am #215203
No. Istumbled on a little yellow guy … :whistle:December 13, 2014 at 2:14 am #215209
A quick google search wouldn’t answer my assumption, but it sounds like this is just a ‘4 stage’ offering from Hill. In that case, it’s probably no better than the ‘old’ Mk3 (which was great, just this is no better).
For comparison, I have an FX “Mk4” (4-stage) pump. It let’s you pump to whatever pressure you think is ‘hard’ to pump, then switch to an easier fourth stage. Of course, you don’t get something for nothing, so it takes a lot more (in theory, for the FX, it takes exactly 1.5 times more) ‘easy’ pumps to get to the target pressure. If you have a very small build (i.e. don’t weigh much) this may be just the ticket you’re looking for, but if you’re over 150lbs, I’ll bet you opt to push a little harder for 1/3rd fewer strokes than go the “easy” route. In practice, although I have a 4-stage pump I use it like a 3-stage pump.
I’m sure the new Hill pump is first rate, but if you’re an average (or larger) adult and you can save a few bucks getting a “Mk3” you’ll probably be just as happy and have a few dollars to try that expensive boutique pellet you’ve been wondering about…
GsTDecember 13, 2014 at 5:53 am #215216
Last night I have emailed hill company. ..asked about the price and if whether this mk4 provides more pressure. ..they replied me…and confirmed that the price is just the same mk3 price. ..and the provide pressure is same..but less effort needs. .. and they wrote that mk4 will be only released after 4 weeks…December 15, 2014 at 3:05 pm #215336
Over the years this is my collection of Hand Pumps so far. From left to right Air Force about 1 ½ years old, Hill MK 3 new, Gehmann about 12 years old, FX 4 stage about a year old.
IMHO all in all the AF/benji pump is a very good value and is a work horse. It’s been abused and keeps on ticking. I bought an aftermarket moisture trap for it. I notice that the fat over size handle makes pumping less strenuous on the hand.
The Hill MK3 is the newest in the bunch and is my main squeeze at the moment, all the rest are backups. It seems the have less strokes to top off my guns than all the others. The out tube did show signs of rust in the lube as it broke in. I had to wipe it all off and re-lube, so far it’s okay now, no rusting.
The Gehmann is for my Morini 162ei only, used in my 10m days now just a memory.
The FX 4 stroke is a made for the light weights under 120lbs, great for girls IMO. I never use the 4 th stage, never needing to top to max pressures of 300 bars which would help there.
Waiting to get a Omega one day soon !
Now there’s two models, so less excuses to get one http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/Compressor.html
~ GKUDecember 16, 2014 at 10:27 pm #215420
Very similar collection to mine, GKU, except the Gehmann in my collection is replaced by a second Hill.
Where did you get the aftermarket moisture trap for the AF?
Also looking at Omega, but it’s easy enough to top off my smaller AG tanks/tubes and they’re handy to toss in the truck for field use.December 17, 2014 at 3:17 am #215431
It’s put out by Sun Optics, I use the Hill Desiccant pack to refill it. It replace the air intake filter on the pump. You might what to shop around for better shipping prices like Amazon but they have a minimum order of 35 $ to get free shipping.
Also looking to try this Desiccant https://secure.drierite.com/catalog3/page5.cfm
Not sure if it’s good but the stuff sound good and is cheep enough to try out anyway.
~ GKUDecember 18, 2014 at 12:36 pm #215540
Thanks for the links!
At some point, I want to try using a few, different techniques to experiment with drying air. I’ve got a lab hygrometer, which I use for work, that can measure the outcome. Thinking of one method where air goes through a pipe, filled with coarse silica gel before going into the pump intake/dry pac. I’ve got a 5 gallon pail of coarse silica kicking around. Even if the silica tube was a separate, heavier floor unit, connected by a hose, it might prove useful.December 18, 2014 at 3:13 pm #215553
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