New Condor Valve Still HOT???

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  • #786
    eamo
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    Ahoy Lads,

    Can any one let me know if the new valve is still the greatest thing since sliced bread?

    Are there pros and cons, or i it all good?

    I am trying to decide between the new valve or keeping the old one and getting a heavier hammer.

    My condor has a Tim W tophat\stem and a lighter valve spring, and only is consistent between 2,200psi and 1,200psi. Any higher than 2,200, and the PoI starts out three dots low and keeps increasing, which wrecks my bleedin head 😈 👿

    What should I Dooooooooooooo ❗

    #27582
    y
    Participant

    I think that the new valve is going to give ou exactly what you want. You just got to weigh up the cost difference between the two options.

    #27596
    randyhub
    Participant

    From a post I made earlier on another Forum (don’t want to SPAM you guys 😆 :

    The old valve was okay for power but was a little spikey for power. I filled to 2800 psi (some are doing 3100 psi with the new valve) using my pump (that was painful, scuba was empty) and powerwheel set on 10 using a 110 grain hammer (putting a lighter one in when I do the .25 upgrade it quite acceptable power.

    No bragging here guys just passing on info to other Condor owners (Okay 😉 )

    Crosman lightweight .22 14 grain pellets chronied at: 53.361 ft lbs

    Piledriver heavy weights .22 30 grain chronied at: 70.141 fpe

    So watch the powerwheel setting and keep those pellets below 950 fps.

    Randy

    #27597
    walkonking
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    quote Randyhub:

    From a post I made earlier on another Forum (don’t want to SPAM you guys 😆 :

    Well how about Eggs, Bacon, Sausage and Spam. That hasn’t much spam in it 😆 😆 😆 😆

    Naw, Dont worry about it. The old site is basically a ghost town used to hold members old posts in the past and we will let them use up their band width to do that. All the New Stuff is on here.

    We as a group is what makes up this place…it was never the name that was important. Everyone is invited and welcome….well almost everyone 🙄 😛

    #27608
    get-the-blue-jay
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    quote Randyhub:

    So watch the powerwheel setting and keep those pellets below 950 fps.Randy

    this might be a dumb question – but why 950fps wouldn’t 1026fps still be accrete, or are you getting to close and starting to play with the wall of waves?

    #27609
    randyhub
    Participant

    Well at over 1000 fps I am getting close to that sonic crack but man can a Condor throw heavy lead FAST!!!

    #27626
    eamo
    Participant

    Thanks for the info,

    Randy, what kind of spread are you getting ? If you were to start at 3000psi power wheel at 10, and fired 60 shots? and what about with the power turned down? Can it knock open the valve when the power wheel is set to 2-4 at 3000psi? What kind of spread over 60 shots?

    What about hammer weight? Is it still necesary to fit a heavier hammer weight? Or can I get good results with stock hammer?

    Eamonn 😀

    #27662
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    My vote is for the new valve! I have one and absolutely love it.

    DH

    #27702
    randyhub
    Participant

    I like it too just need to do some fine tuning here is a shot string:

    Randy

    Hammer weight = 110 Grains

    Pellet Power
    Crosman Wheel
    14 grain 4

    Fill Press
    Initial 2900 PSI
    Final psi

    1 1253
    2 1256
    3 1220
    4 1253
    5 1251
    6 1252
    7 1246
    8 1250
    9 1253
    10 1242
    11 1244
    12 1240
    13 1239
    14 1224
    15 1223
    16 1217
    17 1205
    18 1210
    19 1205
    20 1196
    21 1183
    22 1177
    23 1167
    24 1159
    25 1158
    26 1151
    27 1151
    28 1129
    29 1121
    30 1132
    31 1115
    32 1120
    33 1113
    34 1115
    35 1109
    36 1110
    37 1100
    38 1109

    #27706
    synopsys
    Participant
    quote Randyhub:

    I like it too just need to do some fine tuning here is a shot string:

    Randy

    Hammer weight = 110 Grains

    Pellet Power
    Crosman Wheel
    14 grain 4

    Fill Press
    Initial 2900 PSI
    Final psi

    1 1253
    2 1256
    3 1220
    4 1253
    5 1251
    6 1252
    7 1246
    8 1250
    9 1253
    10 1242
    11 1244
    12 1240
    13 1239
    14 1224
    15 1223
    16 1217
    17 1205
    18 1210
    19 1205
    20 1196
    21 1183
    22 1177
    23 1167
    24 1159
    25 1158
    26 1151
    27 1151
    28 1129
    29 1121
    30 1132
    31 1115
    32 1120
    33 1113
    34 1115
    35 1109
    36 1110
    37 1100
    38 1109

    Very, very nice, looks pretty flat at the start.

    Thanks for doing the testing and posting it!

    #27707
    randyhub
    Participant

    You are welcome now these were quick shots and reloads and crappy pellets I am sure that the .25 Eun Jins work even better I did throw these 14.9 grains pellets into the mid 1300’s when I was playing!

    #27710
    nierds
    Participant

    how much do a standard hammer weigh?

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