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  • #370
    martin777
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    Condor .22
    Hammer=127g
    Stock spring
    Top Hat–0.093″ (from factory)
    8lbs. Top Hat spring pressure (same as old valve!)
    PW=10
    Chrony Master Beta
    3050 PSI Initial fill
    Eun Jin 28gr–30 shots
    Kodiak 21gr–20 shots
    And here we go–>

    1-1167………………..11-1155…………………21-1121
    2-1096………………..12-1179-(86.4 FPE)…22-1103
    3-1131………………..13-1160…………………23-1089
    4-1113………………..14-1173…………………24-1086
    5-1127………………..15-1156…………………25-1074
    6-1130………………..16-1153
    7-1153………………..17-1145
    8-1167………………..18-1147
    9-1153………………..19-1130
    10-1160………………20-1134

    PW set to 0– (no effect)
    26-1065
    27-1049
    28-1048
    29-1037
    30-1030——1900 PSI

    Kodiak 21gr–1900 PSI
    PW=5 (probably no effect)
    1-1167………………11-1086
    2-1157………………12-1080
    3-1150………………13-1054
    4-1138………………14-1050
    5-1136………………15-1048
    6-1127………………16-1046
    7-1120………………17-1040
    8-1128………………18-1029
    9-1117………………19-1007
    10-1104…………….20-997

    End pressure=1300 PSI
    Accuracy really sucks–too much muzzle velocity I suspect.

    I’m guessing too much hammer is most of this.
    I would put in my stock (85g) hammer and repeat
    but I don’t see it even firing @3000 PSI with the SAME spring pressure as
    the old valve! Will the stock hammer limit me to fills of <<3000 PSI?
    I guess I’ll be taking that virgin valve apart-huh?–DAM. 😡

    p.s.—The new valve IS quieter! New O-Ring mod. really works. :mrgreen:

    #24530
    anthony266
    Keymaster

    Martin,
    That is a heavy hammer and though your velocities look good at that speed accurracy goes in the dumper…

    Go back to your stock hammer and remember these rifles shoot better at 2800-2900 psi.

    #24531
    martin777
    Participant

    I know this is burried in the archives but since I’ve got your attention–
    What seems to be the optimum/most accurate velocities for the Eun Jin and Kodiak?

    #24556
    anthony266
    Keymaster

    Hey Martin.
    1050 FPS max for Kodiaks and Eun Jins.
    Groups really start to tighten up in 950 range.
    Good Luck

    #24558
    walkonking
    Participant

    What Tony said. I like to keep Kodiaks at 950fps and the accuracy is there. I can shoot them at 1270 fps but don’t.

    No condor here this is what I use….

    #24791
    martin777
    Participant

    STOCK Condor .22
    STOCK hammer/striker/ (85gr total)
    Stock spring
    Latest and greatest NEW valve from AirForce
    Top Hat factory set @ 0.093″ ~8lbs. spring pressure
    Beeman Kodiak 21.1g
    Chrony=Master Beta
    PW=10
    Starting pressure=207 Bar (3002 PSI)
    End pressure=110 Bar (1595 PSI)
    50 shots

    1-851—–11-965——21-1054—–31-1084—–41-1043
    2-861—–12-1007—–22-1060—–32-1081—–42-1030
    3-859—–13-1020—–23-1059—–33-1077—–43-1022
    4-877—–14-1018—–24-1058—–34-1071—–44-1009
    5-870—–15-error—–25-1062—–35-1068—–45-1001
    6-896—–16-1021—–26-1069—–36-1067—–46-991
    7-894—–17-1029—–27-1073—–37-1063—–47-985
    8-887—–18-1022—–28-1087—–38-1050—–48-979
    9-909—–19-1027—–29-1089—–39-1046—–49-974
    10-913—-20-1039—–30-1085—–40-1048—–50-968

    Hottest shot=1089 fps/55.5 FPE

    PW=0
    Starting pressure=150 Bar/2175 PSI
    Ending pressure=95 Bar/1378 PSI
    30 shots

    1-988———————16-996
    2-984———————17-996
    3-990———————18-978
    4-998———————19-967
    5-975———————20-962
    6-984———————21-958
    7-994———————22-951
    8-987———————23-953
    9-995———————24-947
    10-996——————–25-936
    11-1002——————-26-929
    12-1006——————-27-919
    13-999——————–28-914
    14-997——————–29-909
    15-993——————–30-905

    I’m dangerously low on ammo.! I’ll update this post with a string of
    Eun Jins (28.4g) as soon as my order comes in.

    If someone wants to plot this data—get ‘er done. :mrgreen:

    #24818
    benzin
    Participant

    Thanks for the info Martin.
    On the stock hammer Test, do those numbers go up if you put the PW in 13? (do you get more velocity?)

    #24820
    rob3dr
    Participant

    Was wondering the same, Benzin… I’ve got one of the new valves coming to go along with my Anthony 266 .25 barrel… should be awesome.

    #24841
    martin777
    Participant
    quote Benzin:

    do those numbers go up if you put the PW in 13?

    I’m sure they would—maybe 30 fps?. Can’t screw that wheel in too far or you won’t be able to cock it! I don’t put much faith in that wheel to accurately control velocities.

    #25074
    joe-from-wv
    Participant

    Has anyone tried the Condor 22 with C02 with 24″ barrel on max, how many shots did you get and what was the muzzle vel or fps and what size tank were you using? Thanks Joe

    #25135
    rob3dr
    Participant

    Martin… I may not have caught this earlier, but when you said stock hammer and striker, is that the old or the new? When I ordered my valve, I was told there is a new striker weight that goes with the newer valve. Were you using the newer striker weight or the old one?

    #25139
    benzin
    Participant
    quote rob3dr:

    Martin… I may not have caught this earlier, but when you said stock hammer and striker, is that the old or the new? When I ordered my valve, I was told there is a new striker weight that goes with the newer valve. Were you using the newer striker weight or the old one?

    You took the words right out of my mouth rob 🙂 i also got a new lighter hammer with the new valve.
    BTW, i did installed the new lighter hammer, but i think it works better with the original (heavier) hammer, thats what i got on mine.

    wich one did you use Martin?

    #25168
    joe-from-wv
    Participant

    I guess no one has this gun in C02.

    #25170
    martin777
    Participant

    I dunno. I bought the rifle new in Feb.

    quote Martin777:

    STOCK hammer/striker/ (85gr total)
    #25171
    rob3dr
    Participant
    quote :

    I dunno. I bought the rifle new in Feb.

    Martin, reason I ask is that AF told me that I’d need the new striker weight that goes along with the valve in order for it to function properly. I dont know how true that is as I’ve not yet got the valve. I dont know if it’s heavier or lighter than the older stock weight….

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