New condor valve on STOCK condor?
Anyone used one of the new valves on a STOCK condor? no heavier hammers or springs, or tunning whatsoever? some strings would be really appreciated!
my condor has one of the new valves, and stock hammer weight, hammer, spring, etc. But i dont have a chrony 🙁
i think it would be good to know if these things finally work OK “out of the box”
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Adam, yours is probably the sweetest TalonSS i have ever seen (i hope that some day my condor looks like that). But remember that your SS is *NOT* the rifle you took out of the box, you had to add (what i see), pistol grips (the original ones are too slim), the but plate, the “trirail” (so you can see thru the scope with out your neck hurting), add aditional sound supression (not very quiet out of the box), and so on.
I think AF guns are the BEST, if youre a “tunner”. That is someone looking for a PROJECT you can have fun improving and working with.
Assuming you have the time, will and money to do it, you can do 100 million things to it.
BUT, if you are just a SHOOTER on a budget, that wants to take his rifle out of the box, pump air on it, and get shooting, i think the career or sumatra are FAR better options.
Are the sumatra and career loud? of course!, but then again so is the condor! (tell me about it) 😆
just my 2c
Joe… my .02
The Talon is as no fuss as any. Certainly moreso than the B50/51. The Condor… well…. I used to not recommend it to someone who didnt want to fiddle with it, but the latest valves look very promising.
Thing is with these guns, they are so FUN to fiddle with. …and contrary to what lots of us have invested in our guns, it doesnt have to be expensive.
A mag light on an old 7/8 ring serves well as a torch. A cheapie laser in the same kind of ring acts as a good laser. You can dress them up in many different configs. They are like the Barbie dolls of the gun world.
Get a second scope, an 11mm to Weaver base, a couple of Weaver mounts, and a different barrel and you can have a completely different gun in a matter of minutes. Just many, many configs out there to have fun with.
If you are looking for practical, get a cheapie .22 rimfire and shoot shorts out of it. 🙂 … otherwise, these guns can be lots of fun.
Benz,
I hear ya. When I wanted power with no fuss no muss I got this. But this sucker is as loud as a cannon.
When I wanted quiet and a nice tight little package I went with this
Joe, my honest opinion is…
if you really dont want to fiddle with hammers, valves, springs, and chronys, get a career or a sumatra. with those you reasonably shure it will be OK out of the box.
This things… well, they ARE pretty good, once you get them all “improved”, i LOVE my condor, but it took a LOT of effort, time, money, and help from the good folks in this forum and the old one (TOG), to get it to work OK.
If you get one, be ready to work on improving everything from the crappy ergonomics, the cumbersome safety, grips, etc. that is, assuming you get the luck of it working ok out of the box.
P.S. i hope no one gets upset with my comments (this IS an airforce forum after all), but it is my honest opinion.
Thank you for your time, So as far as I am concerned on with the Condor savings plan, my physical condition is one on the reason I thought the PCP is the way to go and I like to drive up on crows and such vermon and shoot them and the way I have it figured is the Condor has the range over what I can not cock in a springer and down the road and some more saving, maybe a C02 bottle to plink with, I live in the mountains and have plenty of area to play. If I had a mod it would be a shroud. Thanks again Adam, Love the cat, don,t I know him from some where LOL
Joe,
My Talon SS is stock other then the cosmetics. I have shot the gun for over 2 years with no internal modifications at all and it worked perfect. Usually the first mod is to get the gun quieter. Other then that you really do not have to modifiy it at all. And if noise is not a problem you are good to go.
As for the valve, Airforce has just improved the Condor valve and the problems are in the past.
Airguns are like firearms in that there is always something you want to do to it but many times is simply a want and not a need.
I am saving my money for a PCP and the Condor was first in line, but the more I hear about valves and hammers and trigger mods. I don,t know if this is a proven product or not! I don,t know what Adam of SOCO and Tony and the rest of you old timers know about this PCP business, it is starting to look like a black hole to me for money. Maybe you can see my side of this thing, I guess $600 or $700 is not that much if you say it fast, but it is for me. Is out of the box good enough or just the starting point! Can you shred some light on this please. Joe
Thanks Martin! 🙂
New STOCK shot string w/new valve—>
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1741#1741
ibe seen it, but those tests were made with a 127g hammer.
i ment a string with a stock condor (normal factory hammer), and new valve.
Take a look at this by Martin77
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Benz,
Thanks for the compliment. Shooting wise the gun has always shot well even out of the box. THe cosmetic changes I made were not out of necessity but rather a vision of how I wanted my gun to look.
But I always had good performance 750+fps with Kodiak and 850+ fps with CP. Now I did avoid the Condor at the time due to know problems. But since AF has udated the Condor It is actually a good deal compared to many of the Euro guns at this time.