February 25, 2008 at 4:43 am #1617randyhubParticipant
Well what a day!! Voltar1 and I finally got to shoot together and all I can say is the man knows his stuff. 😯 After 3 years of playing with my Condor doing a .25 upgrade I thought wow I do know my airgun theory! WRONG!!!!!!
Okay if you think you are knowledgable about what makes a PCP tick don’t fool yourself as I thought after many mods and builds of BSA’s, Crosmans. my Condor, and others I knew my stuff but until one has built a PCP from scratch one just cannot understand what it takes not to BLOW yourself up using 3100 pounds of air!
We compared guns from all possible considerations and I was awestruck. How can someone build a PCP from pictures. I was able to see a 800cc buttstock tank in use with .177, .22, .25, 9mm, .457 and I will say the bigbores hurt one’s ears. The valve, barrel changeouts took mere minutes and the 9mm is just puree evil. While .25 42 grainers barely tore thru the heavy aluminum cover the 9mms blasted thru and kept going. Walter’s Vulture gets 20 POWERFUL bigbore shots per fill and way more in the smaller calibers. The quick fill nipple and pressure gauge are 2 mods slated for my Condor. Shooting at the 1″ gong at 55 meters was to say the least BORING with our guns but HOLY does his Vulture at 120 ft lbs in .25 whack a spinner HARD never mind the 9mm. I did try my 30 ft lb Talon tank as well in .25 and while it wouldn’t spin the metal spinner it was super consistant. 🙂
Here are some pics, and thanks Walter I can see how your profession and training has benefited your ability to both design and machine your Monster.
I really felt like I had a sparrow (90 ftlbs) while you had a hawk (460+ fpe).
My aluminum cover with 9mm holes in it, thanks Walter:
The 55 meter range view:
My 4 shot Polygonal .25 group at 55 meters I know I should have shot more but I didn’t want to spoil my luck:
So we will be doing lots more shooting in the future.
RandyFebruary 25, 2008 at 3:02 pm #34858bodhisdadParticipant
I’m envious Randy, be nice to shoot the $h!t with someone like V. He mentioned something in another thread about hammer travel which made perfect sense after reading it, though i was thinking something different. I know my rig enough to rip it down, fine tune it, mod a valve is necessary, basicly the same as you. we’ve had or rigs about the same time, and have continued to build and rebuild on the existing platform. I really wished i knew about machineing, what some of these guys have built just amazes me, even Woks but plate is a nice piece of machining. Blodnobs valve is a valve unto its own, dan brits Baz and Sean come up with some very nice pieces as well. Sorry to hear about the size issues. Seems to strike a guy the wrong way 😆 I can only see you there with the .25 smiling at your pride and joy, then Walter there, crotchity old man, walking up with his 9mm “Vulture”, smiling. There is no shame in being one upped by someone like Walter. A quick fill and gauge would be a nice addition to a tank. A quick fill would solve some design issues with building a stock around the tank.
Walter, looks like the wood turned out nice, how does it fit the hand? Happy with it?
Be great if more of us could get together, imagine the things we could learn from one another, the fun of shooting together. Meeting face to face instead of this online thing. Closest to me is Mikemv who is still a pretty good hike from me. He knows his rig well, and how to get the most out of it, be nice to shoot with him sometime. Most of us are pretty well spread out from Cali to Texas to Florida to the North east to England, and just about everywhere inbetween, bummer. Sounds like you guys had alot of fun wish i could have been there. A schooling on AGs would have been in session, i’d be alright with that.February 25, 2008 at 3:15 pm #34859walkonkingParticipant
Is Walter as handsome as he sounds? 😛February 25, 2008 at 6:02 pm #34869teflontronParticipant
That sounds like great fun. DarkGhost is about 5 miles from me, so that will be easy!February 25, 2008 at 10:07 pm #34880
Wow – the .470 N. E. of airguns, and F-ing home made to boot. I’m duly impressed with the gun, and with the skills & persistance to build it.February 25, 2008 at 10:17 pm #34881blackopsParticipant
Thats really cool Randy glad you guys are close enough to hang out and get some shooting in!!!
That is some WIDE OPEN land there!!!
Guns looks really great too.
Jim.February 25, 2008 at 11:03 pm #34887knifemakerParticipant
Fantastic! Looks like you guy’s have the room for a little long range!February 25, 2008 at 11:10 pm #34889loftusParticipant
a great day of shooting,must have been fun,to fire the famous bigbore,BOOOM,DAMN,Lol,
hey garytex nataka m’boga nayusi tafadhali,i recognise that kiswahili,do you speak it?i spent a few years in east AfricaFebruary 26, 2008 at 3:31 am #34923randyhubParticipant
Yes Walter’s ideas go WAY deeper then most can even imagine. Here I am feeling all ballsy about my 90 ft lb .25 Condor and after Walter scared the living sh_t out of me shooting that 9mm he goes oh lets try the .25 setup. Out comes the barrel and breech in goes the .25 setup and I say sweet we are even!!! 😆 Then after a few rounds he goes well let’s get these 42 grainers out there unscrews his tophat pulls out something from the inside it slaps her back in and BANG!!! Now I go from at least running with the Big Dog to feeling like Pee Wee Herman again. 😥
So if you think he doesn’t have some tricks up his sleeve WRONG, he is just amazing to speak with and his machining magic is incredible. The grips on his Vulture feel great and his trigger kicks my Condors bad!!!
And yes he is rather Intense Scotsman, wouldn’t have wanted to run into him 500 years ago with a Claymore in his hand!February 26, 2008 at 3:52 am #34927
I only learned enough to joke around with the guys in camp. For years I saved to go Cape Buffalo hunting in southern Tanzania. I grew up in South Texas bird hunting in in Mexico, and couldn’t conceive going hunting in Africa and not being able to yuck it up with the local “Birdboys”. So I learned about 300 words and some stock tourist phrases that were recognized as such from a tape. That Nataca M’bogo nayusi tafadali is a corruption of something that i understand roughly translated “go call me a cab, please” with cape buffalo substituted for cab. One morning I went to the edge of camp and waved my hand up and down and spit that out. They all thought it was real funny. There were also lots of ‘mavi kesho’ jokes too. On further reflection I should have made my tag line “bunduki opeppo”. Gun windy. And I am kind of gunwindy come to think of it.
That was 3 or 4 years ago, and I’m forgetting it really fast. No one to speak it to.
What the hell were you doing in East Africa? Missionary, probably considering my luck and my language.February 26, 2008 at 9:16 am #34941loftusParticipant
hahaha,yes garytex east Africa is a nice place and people there are always joking and smiling eh,that phrase about the cab must of had them locals in stitches,mbogo is a buffalo but i have heard it used it to describe a BIG FAT lady or something not very pretty,so you could be saying i want a big fat ugly lady please,hahaha,i spent some time out there with the military,and after went back again as a volenteer worker got some great memories,hope to spend some time in Zimbabwe as a friend has just got a farm there near a game reserve!!happy days,February 26, 2008 at 3:03 pm #34944teflontronParticipant
Wait, Walt is Scottish? That crazy bampot!February 26, 2008 at 3:12 pm #34945walkonkingParticipant
Scotish?……Those Ladies from Hell know their stuff
If it’s not Scottishs….its…..Crrrrrrrrrap!February 26, 2008 at 7:52 pm #34960quote loftus:
Oh how cool, my brother went to Zim with Roger Wittal this summer to Choware. Man that place is comming apart at the seams. He wants to go back in 2009. I’m thinking of going along as an observer, but havent fully decided wether or not to go. My family raises damn near everything I could shoot there in the Plains Game set of critters on our ranch in So. Texas, and I dont think I want to spend 10 g’s on a Buf.
Your friend must have large ones to be starting any ranching in Zim. Where is his place. What gun might you take, or will you use something there. That sounds like a true adventure to go. You must be torn. I’ve run around some in thirld world countries hunting without guides to smooth things over, but Zim is 5th world. Are you nervous?, or merely overcome by visions of M’bogo Zimbawean maidens?
I’m going to brag a little on my brother. He practiced shooting for his hunt and is a very very good game shot. He shot a nice Kudu at 153 yards. It was in a huge pan, and there was no way to get any closer. With Iron sights. With a 500 N.E. That’s gun control.quote :February 26, 2008 at 10:57 pm #34978voltar-1Participantquote WalkonKing:
Thanks fellas! :):)
could be why I get uptight ever now an agin
BTW Gary and lofty get yer own thread!!!!!
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