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  • #837
    steveinla
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    This afternoon I had a squirrel in my sights just as pretty as you please. I squeezed off the shot and not much happened. The gun expelled just enough air to blow the pellet out of the barrel, but it didn’t even make it to the target. The squirrel didn’t even know that I was shooting at it!

    The last time that it did this Adam recommended that I lube the hammer, or breech? Where, and how much? Any and all suggestions are welcome including possible operator errror scenerios.

    Oh the squirrel, well my second shot must have missed by milimeters because he jumped straight up and tried to hide in the tree. The third shoot went through the left shoulder and out the right ear. This is my first Talon SS kill. Thanks Cyg for the tip about the sunflower seeds. I am looking forward to getting the bugs out of this gun.

    #27934
    walkonking
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    Some dont like to lube. But I have found it works for me. I put a dab of divers silicone on the barrel were the orings are on the breech. And I will us a QTip and put a little bit on the hammer. A very little goes a long way. The hammer sometimes likes to chatter on it trip and will give dud shots. A little lube has solved it for me and it does not have to be done often, I think I have done it 3x in 2 years.

    #27935
    steveinla
    Participant

    Do I put this on the hammers O rings that contact the inside of the breech?

    #27936
    airtramp
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    Hi Steve, the instruction on lubricating with diver silicone should be on the DVD that came with your airgun.

    #27937
    steveinla
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    Hi, I have lubed the internal O rings that slide on the barrel. Do I also lube the larger O rings that the hamer rides on…the one on the outside of the hammer?

    #27938
    y
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    quote SteveinLA:

    Hi, I have lubed the internal O rings that slide on the barrel. Do I also lube the larger O rings that the hamer rides on…the one on the outside of the hammer?

    Not with silicone you dont. Divers Silcone is used on the o-rings to prevent wear and provide a better seal. It will slow down your hammer and cause more problems for you. (They are not O-rings on the outside of the hammer, they are delrin bushings)

    If you have access to powdered graphite that can be used as a lube the hammer. Personally I havent lubed my hammer, but WOK and several others have with good results, but it sounds like a dry lube is best. Wet lubes tend to attract dirt with it being an open design.

    #27939
    walkonking
    Participant
    quote Yellow Ninja:

    quote SteveinLA:

    Hi, I have lubed the internal O rings that slide on the barrel. Do I also lube the larger O rings that the hamer rides on…the one on the outside of the hammer?

    Not with silicone you dont. Divers Silcone is used on the o-rings to prevent wear and provide a better seal. It will slow down your hammer and cause more problems for you. (They are not O-rings on the outside of the hammer, they are delrin bushings)

    If you have access to powdered graphite that can be used as a lube the hammer. Personally I havent lubed my hammer, but WOK and several others have with good results, but it sounds like a dry lube is best. Wet lubes tend to attract dirt with it being an open design.

    You can get powdered Graphite or Teflon from a hobby shop. It usually is in the section where they sell pinewood derby cars.

    #27942
    steveinla
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    I actually have powdered graphite. I use it for locks. I’ll give it a try.
    Thanks

    #27949
    bodhisdad
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    Ditch that i’ve tried them both all that happens is it attracts debris, lead dust, dust dust. Try using a a large swab and some polish and shine up the inside of the frame. I used a long drill bit and wrapped it with a tee-shirt cut into a 6″/7″ strip. Wrapped it till it was a tight fit, then added some MAAS jewelers polish/cleaner/wax, and spun it up in the frme from the brech end. Worked great and added 25fps. Use a variable speed drill and don’t over do it. I plugged the trigger assembly with bits of the cut T-shirt, trigger guard screw just into the hole. Keep an eye on it as it will work its way in. Wrap the swab counter clockwise and it will stay tight on the bit. The anodized inner surface is plenty slick and works well when shined up. I also did some polishing on the delrin guides, but i have special high grit/micron paper and wouldn’t advise doing this with carbide sandpaper. You could try some of the polishes/rouges in different grits, finish qualities. They have bits of abrasive in them.Choice is yours, just telling you what i’ve found, under my circumstances.

    #27950
    get-the-blue-jay
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    quote SteveinLA:

    Thanks Cyg for the tip about the sunflower seeds.

    Did I miss something?
    what was the sunflower tip?

    Too bad the fist shot diddn’t get him.. I’v been there 🙁 at least you got him in the end, congrats on the first drawn blood with your ss.
    (note to self-you can’t spell before coffee intake)

    #27952
    steveinla
    Participant

    Good morning,
    In the thread, “Squirrels, Lots Of Them”, I asked Cygnus X what was in the bowl that attracts the squirrels like a magnet? He said something about black oil sunflower seeds. He also made mention of birds and squirrels seem to feed together, so put out a bird feeder, or broadcast birdseed mix around the area. I think that this info is on page 4 or 5 of that thread. Nothing like learning from a master.
    Happy Turkey Day 😀

    #27953
    steveinla
    Participant

    Thanks Bodhisdad,
    I have read elsewhere that people polish the inside of the frame. Now I understand why. Thanks for the tips.
    Happy Turkey Day to all!

    #27954
    walkonking
    Participant
    quote Bodhisdad:

    Ditch that i’ve tried them both all that happens is it attracts debris, lead dust, dust dust. Try using a a large swab and some polish and shine up the inside of the frame. I used a long drill bit and wrapped it with a tee-shirt cut into a 6″/7″ strip. Wrapped it till it was a tight fit, then added some MAAS jewelers polish/cleaner/wax, and spun it up in the frme from the brech end. Worked great and added 25fps. Use a variable speed drill and don’t over do it. I plugged the trigger assembly with bits of the cut T-shirt, trigger guard screw just into the hole. Keep an eye on it as it will work its way in. Wrap the swab counter clockwise and it will stay tight on the bit. The anodized inner surface is plenty slick and works well when shined up. I also did some polishing on the delrin guides, but i have special high grit/micron paper and wouldn’t advise doing this with carbide sandpaper. You could try some of the polishes/rouges in different grits, finish qualities. They have bits of abrasive in them.Choice is yours, just telling you what i’ve found, under my circumstances.

    But you used ACETONE mixed in with graphite. That totally would not work and defeats the idea of a dry lubricant. And would gunk it up. Whoever told you to use Acetone as a carrier for graphite played a mean joke on you.
    I dont know where you guys shoot but I am in the dirt and in the woods all the time. My gun internals do not “Attract debris”. I use a bipod to put my gun on the ground so my gun never is the ground to get debris inside. Dry lubricant work well….that is what it is utilized for.

    Most of the garbage you are going to be getting in the internal of the gun is lead dust and debris from delrin wear. If you are getting dirt, lint, sand in your internals then find out how it is getting in there.

    #27955
    steveinla
    Participant

    Should I stay or should I go?
    C’mon and let me know…
    Should I stay or should I go?

    I feel like Gilligan in the middle of an arguement between the Skipper and the Professor… 😀
    or like Larry between Moe and Curly 😀

    Seriously, there is always good information here, even when it contradicts.

    Thanks guys

    #27956
    walkonking
    Participant
    quote SteveinLA:

    Should I stay or should I go?
    C’mon and let me know…
    Should I stay or should I go?

    I feel like Gilligan in the middle of an arguement between the Skipper and the Professor… 😀
    or like Larry between Moe and Curly 😀

    Seriously, there is always good information here, even when it contradicts.

    Thanks guys

    Spritz a little graphite in it and work the hammer back and fourth. Then go shoot it. Remember a little goes a long way. If you want to polish it then in my opinion that should be done last not first. I have even used a dry spray lubricant in the past that works fine. All solutions do not always end up with an overhaul of your gun. Sometimes KISS is a good policy.

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