I just got my new Talon SS last Thursday…Too Cool!!!
Last July I began a quest for a powerful, accurate air rifle. It had to be better than my 15 year old Benjamin 392. I started with a Gamo CFX and was not happy with its performance. Then I ordered a Beeman R9. It was heavy but the power was not as good as I expected, and it the mainspring began making this grinding sound when I cocked it after only 250 shots; it went back. The quest goes on.
I had begun reading the posts on this forum and liked what I read from its users. You people seem like a good group of guys and are helpful. Two things sold me on a talon SS:
1). Someone had posted some of the DVD that comes with AF guns.
2). The videos of that guy who bagged all of the squirrels; too cool!
So, I am now a proud talon SS owner and am looking forward to learning about this great air rifle.
My Talon SS seems to have a narrow velocity window. On pw setting 2-1, I get 767 fps. On pw setting 8-1 I’m getting 848 fps with CP’s. Is this normal?
Thanks for any info.
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That’s a great idea with the airsoft gun. Now I have a reason to buy one. I don’t like yhe name “airsoft”. It implies that they are safe and cannot hurt somebody.
I read sometime ago that Walmart sells a black nylon guitar case that is perfect camoflage for our equipment. Another good idea. I do refer to our guns as BB guns for just that reason. That’s another good idea!
Thanks
Steve,
Discretion is always best. Carry your gun in a case that does not look like a gun case. Keep the shots quiet by adding baffles or a shroud. Make sure no one can see you shooting and go buy yourself a black airsoft rifle. If he cops show up at your house let them see that one 😆
Refer to your airgun as a BB gun if asked and wrap your gun case in a blanket if you are walking were someone can see you.
As for PETA….They are a bunch of lying and animal killing bastards. Take a look at this site and spread the word on how they kill 85% of the animals they take in…secretly
What I am in awe of is the type of critters that you guys are bagging. Also the technical prowess that is demonstrated with your still and video documentation. Also, you guys seem to be fearless of PETA and all of the other tree-hugging, rat-loving, vermin-raising individuals who seem to so happily embrace such diseases as bubonic plague, hanta virus, fleas, tics, mites, worbles, and countless others.
It’s true that I am very fortunate to have found this house just before the market exploded. I knew right away that there were many uses for the fifty acres of undeveloped land across the street. It is a perfect airgun range. Every time I shoot over there I expect for the cops to show up but nobodys called yet. So I do feel fortunate.
My enthusiam is genetic in nature. I seem to have the shooting gene. I am not sure if it is a family thing, or an American thing. My enthusiam for the shooting sports goes way back to when I was a kid and had to buy my first BB guns without my mothers knowledge, or permission. The first week that knew my wife, I tossed a parkerized 1911 on my bed and proceeded to inform her of my passion for shooting, and that if she didn’t like guns, she should move on. Her response was great. She’s a nurse and told me that she wanted to learn to shoot the biggest gun she could handle. Her desire came from watching a guy on angel dust strapped to an LAFD gurney walk down the hall with the bed still strapped to his back. Someone said, “security, bring our bed back.” She decided right then and there that if ever she had to deal with one of these dusted individuals, she wants to do it with the most powerful pistol she can, (she’s since developed an affinity for the Glock 21, (pre-ban). She likes the 13 round edge). So she’s been ok with my favorite sport.
Steve: don’t feel overawed at all. My house, whilst detached, is still slap bang in the middle of an urban area, so my shooting range is even less than your’s.
Steve… good to have you here. Always great to hear the enthusiasm of someone with a new Talon. Brings us all back to an earlier time when we got our first AF gun.
Please dont be afraid to ask anything, we are all willing to help out in any way we can. Soon enough, it will be you helping out someone posting about their new Talon!
Thanks Jim! I am a little intimidated by the hunting threads. Many of the posts are awesome! People are bagging all kinds of great critters. My “backyard” hunting is pretty much limited to rats, squirrels, and rabbits. Pretty lame compared to nutria, pigs, opossum, fox, coyote, and more. The pics and video are great too. Then there are the souped up guns that guys are using. Wow, too cool! I’m just using my stock, relatively low end pea shooters. On the other hand, I am pleased with my sucesses with these pea shooters. It certainly forces me to hunt well and place my shots percisely. I favor the cervical spine, and head shots. But as always, thanks for the encouragement.
I am truly looking forward to my first Talon kill. I have sighted it in and am feeling comfortable with it. I know that it isn’t one of the preferred pellets, but I plan to use a Beeman Silver Bear, 12.6 grain pellet. I have been getting good accuracy, and it really opens up a soda can filled with water, (good energy transfer).
I have been having my son shoot a few shots through it when he gets home from school, or after he’s finished his homework. I tell him taht it isn’t how many shots he shoots, it’s how well he places them. I encourage him to take his time and he is doing quite well for a ten year old. (I wish I had a Talon SS to shoot when I was ten!)
Good story….yea post them up in the Hunting section I love reading about peoples hunting expeditions.
That’s great you teach your kids about guns and safety…
Jim.
I prefer the term “Tree rat”. That’s all they are anyways. Nasty little tree rats! 😈
Good story. Thanks
Funny I call the whackos here “Nutters”
Thanks! I started both my son and daughter with a Daisy “Pal”. It’s actually one of the first BB guns that I bought from another kid when I was in 7th grade. I think I gave him $5 for it. I have taken care of it for all of these years and it still works. Then I played “A Christmas Story” for them, and of course bought them Red Ryders. We went across the street to the undeveloped hillside where I taught them more gun safety and how to play kick the can with a BB gun. They loved it.
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Next I aquired a Stevens single shot .22 which I cut the stock down to fit them. The first thing I did was demonstrate the leathal power of a bullet even as small as a .22. I shot a grapefruit with a hollow point, and of course it shredded it. Then I shot a bar of soap. That produced a small hole in front and an inch and a half hole in the backside. Then I shot an apple which literally exploded. They got the message.
As they got better, I bought the girl a henry youth model lever gun in .22lr. I bought the boy a Henry survival rifle (AR-7). He’s younger and required a light weight piece. We have spent many an hour at the range. My daughter is a crack shot but gets bored after just thirty minutes or so. But my son will stand there all day shooting with me. He’s got the gene.
However, I can’t very well shoot pests with a .22 in my suburban neighborhood. A problem that many of us have. But my 392 has served me well. It does however require endless pumping for target shooting. So last year I bought two crosman 2250 B rifles. One for my brother, and one for me. Well my son shot mine and that was it; he glaumed on it straight away. So I bought two more. One is new in the box in storage. My daughter asked me to get her one for this Christmas just a few weeks ago, (kind of my plan when I bought the other two). Oh yeah, I put 3X9 32mm telescopes on them.
Time for a hunting story…My brother was comming to visit one morning. His arrival coicided with not less than four tree squirrels in my pine tree. I took a 2250 B stoked with Beeman Crow Magnums and shot one of them just as my brother was knocking on my door. I told him, “come on, I just got a nutter!” We went into the back yard just in time for me to put the final shot into him. He fell like a rock.
Then the most extrodinary thing happened. The other three nutters started barking away at me. I guess that they were mad at me. So, I reloaded and poped number two who fell dead never to move again. Then, number three continued barking at me, so I popped him. Again it fell dead. Then number four sat there carrying on the same protest. So I shot at him. This one scampered away not fast but definitely took his leave. I don’t think that I hit him. My brother however thinks that number four was hit and ran off to die elsewhere. All of these shots were ten to twenty feet away. They were almost too close for the use of telescopic sights, even on low power. I was amazed that they stayed. It is a joke between my brother and I that the squirrels were saying, “me next, me next”, or “shoot me, shoot me!). He was sold on the 2250 B right then and there. I know that this story is a little unbelievable, but I don’y have a good enough imagination to make upp this stuff.
I don’t take pictures like you guys do. I am afraid to post such pics. I am worried that PETA or some other group is going to come to my door. Here in California people are over the top save the critters at all costs. Obviously, I don’t agree with them. Varmits are just that and I deal with as efficiently as possible. I am reluctant to poison these pests as the hawks and owls perish from eating poisoned rodents and I have no desire to inadvertantly kill there birds of prey.
I get a little long winded; sorry. If you like my stories, I’ll post more in the hunting section. Actually I have a bunch, but nothing bigger than rabbits…yet.
Congrats Steve! looking forward to reading some hunting stories from you? Cool to hear your out shooting with your son too…that is awsome!
Love the SS! Jim.
Well that is a great explaination. I am afraid i’m going to jinx this thing. Well here goes…mine seems to work fine with a full 3000 psi charge. But I have tremendous respect for the body of experience that you gentlemen have amassed. I am going to try the 2800 psi start pressure and see what happens. I was able to attain 848 fps with a full charge, and beeman silver bear pellets, (12.6) grains, pw setting 8-1.
This morning I was setting up for a possible first squirrel and my sighter shot with the silver bear pellet went exactly where I wanted it to go. I was impressed as it was my “cold shot”, (first shot of the day). I didn’t chronograph it, but it exploded the soda can full of water that I use as a benchmark type target.
Thanks again.
Yeah, their limit is a decent amount higher than 3000psi. I wouldnt recommened that though….
3000psi can sometimes cause problems. Valve might not open because of something called valve lock – too much pressure to open the valve so you get really low powered shots until the pressure gets down.. and usually it starts shooting normally at 2800psi. So its better if you just start there to begin with. By all means try 3000psi if you want, yours might work fine from 3000psi.
WHen to refil is simply a matter of.. when you want too. Some guys shoot 50 yards so they refil when they notice even a slight change in POI and other guys shoot short range and wont notice a POI changed for ages.
WHen you notice a POI change and you feel a need to refil to keep the gun where you want it, then refill. I just make a note of how many shots I get before I would notice a change of POI if I were at the range and refill when I get there. I dont really care what the pressure is.
Ok guys, if 2800 psi is the upper pressure, what is the lower pressure? When should I recharge?
Hmm…why not charge up to 3000 psi?
I rented a scuba tank but it had a bad O ring. When I took it back, I showed the guy my AF tank and fill adapter. He connected it to a tank that he had just filled and pressurized it to 3200 psi. This horrified me as I thought that the pressure bursting disk would let go. Fortunately it did not rupture. When I told him about the pressure bursting disk, he told me that they usuall let go at 3500 psi. Is this true?
Thanks again
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Whoa! Thanks for the education about PETA. I am surprised. They had me duped too. Have you sent this to the NRA? They probably already know, huh? Thanks for the education. I will definitely send this on.