April 13, 2008 at 2:44 pm #1945
I’m thinking about placing an order. I know every gun is different. But as a general rule do the Condors/Talons like them?April 13, 2008 at 3:07 pm #37679davedParticipant
Neither one of my TSS’s does, at least not at the typical ranges/velocities I shoot them at. And that’s in either caliber. I can’t do it all the time, but I have gotten ragged one hole groups with Kodiaks at 30 yards, typical is more like 3/8-1/2″. Crow Mags are all over, I’m lucky to even be able to hit a 1″ bull at 30 yards, never mind getting groups. BTW, I shoot Kodiaks at 900-950 fps, and I haven’t done a thorough job of testing Crow Mags. But even with springers I’ve had that shot them well, they were still only a 30 yard pellet, max. I now have a CO2 setup for the Talon, I may give the Crow Mags another try at the reduced velocity that will generate. In the past, I’ve found them to be most accurate at velocities of 800 fps or less. I’ve gotten there with the Talon, but still wasn’t getting acceptable accuracy. Hope that helps, sorry I got so long winded :-). Later.
DaveApril 13, 2008 at 3:40 pm #37681walkonkingParticipant
They SUCK for me past 30 yards.April 13, 2008 at 3:42 pm #37682ambush-hunterParticipant
Suck big time. OK for close range.April 13, 2008 at 7:58 pm #37711
At 30yds and under, great!!
Even the .177 are tack drivers at close range.
Remember, these are for “game”, not targets at long range…, I love my CM’s!!April 14, 2008 at 1:32 pm #37739
WOW! I may have made a monster mistake. A friend and I just ordered 2400 rounds of crow mag. ammo. We’ll see……..April 14, 2008 at 2:03 pm #37744
if they don’t work for you, let me know, I may get some from you if you do not like them or want to get rid of themApril 14, 2008 at 2:11 pm #37745
OKApril 14, 2008 at 4:41 pm #37753bodhisdadParticipant
Same as everyone else 30yds. max. Your better off shooting JSBs, or there clones like BSA wolverines from sportsmans warehouse, Kodiaks are my favorite. Predators do very well, but are a bit pricey.April 15, 2008 at 2:09 pm #37801
I don’t understand. I placed the items in the cart, checked out, paid with C.C. everything showed up and “in stock”. Then I get an email saying items on back order. SO, I go to the website to see what’s on back order…..everything still shows up as in stock. So I cancelled based on everyone saying their condor didn’t like the C.M. Now I need a quick answer for a store to buy pellets now. I’m willing to drive to Fresno or Stockton. HELP…….please. Thanks.April 15, 2008 at 2:44 pm #37808
Update. I called and modified the order. It was back ordered because i ordered six pouches and they had five. So they are sending five pouches and 4 tins of C.M. cause I want to try them my self. should be here Friday. But I still need pellets today.April 16, 2008 at 2:41 am #37847knifemakerParticipant
Same as every one else. Oddly enouth, they shot fantastic out of my .20 ss.
Dave, How you getting 950 with Kodiaks out of .22 ss? Condor valve?April 16, 2008 at 8:29 am #37858sacshooterParticipantquote waynejitsu:
.22 CM suck for me, I wish I knew then what I know now. I think they suck for my .22 SSApril 16, 2008 at 9:49 am #37860
How fast are you guy’s shooting the CM’s?April 16, 2008 at 12:05 pm #37863bodhisdadParticipant
In .22 cal its generally been stated through trial and error that beyond 30yds the groups open up quite a bit. Tumbleing is common, and this is reported from guys shotting at all speeds. Talon, TSS, Condor, Modded valves and custom valves, i don’t know that i’ve ever read about cro-mags shooting well beyond the 30yd mark. The pellet is not aerodynamic, therefore only suite for backyard distances. Its a good pellet for those ranges and does its job well. In some regards out performs Kodiaks or JSB because you don’t get over penetration. The Cro-mag enters and rapidly expands, giving all its energy to the target. There is a reason why Kodiaks and JSB type pellets perform so well at distance, that is because of the head type, domed. Although Kodiaks are considered pointed, they are more domed in my eyes. The truth is we are using pellets designed for less powered airguns, and not much has come out for the higher powered PCP type AGs. What we need is a bullet shaped pellet around 30g/35g or so.
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