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Heavy Bolt VS. Light Bolt

The stock breach is light but I was wonder if there is a difference in consistency and shot count if a heavy breach is used?

Think of it this way if the mass of the bolt is the same as the hammer maybe the Newton cradle effect will take place and knock the valve open without to much movement of the bolt. Might help with the debounce thing?

Now I will let you geniuses think about it

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quote Spartacus:

quote Adam in SoCal:

Sparty,

Maybe I will have to make a big cocking knob for the bolt so it equals the hammer wieght and see what happens

Maybe you could just ask Lama’s mom to stroke the one that’s already on it. ❗

Uh oh, now I’ve gone and done it.

You can’t delete me and my 3 posts. It would cripple the archives!

Chuckle.

No that is a good idea….I will ask 😆

quote Adam in SoCal:

Sparty,

Maybe I will have to make a big cocking knob for the bolt so it equals the hammer wieght and see what happens

Maybe you could just ask Lama’s mom to stroke the one that’s already on it. ❗

Uh oh, now I’ve gone and done it.

You can’t delete me and my 3 posts. It would cripple the archives!

Chuckle.

Sparty,

Maybe I will have to make a big cocking knob for the bolt so it equals the hammer wieght and see what happens

quote Adam in SoCal:

The stock breach is light but I was wonder if there is a difference in consistency and shot count if a heavy breach is used?

Think of it this way if the mass of the bolt is the same as the hammer maybe the Newton cradle effect will take place and knock the valve open without to much movement of the bolt.

This is very reminiscent of a “conservation of energy” type thread from ‘the other side’ which was lost in the great wipe.

The thought that originally struck me when I learnt how these guns work is that if you had a light hammer, strong spring and heavy breach, as long as Newton’s laws were ‘obeyed’ you should, in theory, benefit from quicker lock times (lighter hammer) AND longer valve opening (increased momentum from heavier breach).
This is only theory of course and doesn’t take into account any losses from heat or sound etc.
The debate in ‘the other place’ raged for some time, with no real conclusive evidence, which is what I was hoping for from some of the keener tinkerer/machinists (CygnusX et al) to settle the debate with real world results.

Kuji,

They have two address’s, one is in Niagra falls on the US side.

Did they specify to send it to the Canadian address? I just sent mine to the US address when I wanted it upgrading (it also needed a repair). Turnaround time was very quick, but I live pretty close relativly to the Canadian border compared to TX.

well when i added a washer between the hat and bottle it saved a few shots, i would shot a chrony, but mine is somewhere in the mail to the factory… in canada…

also, you can see the hammer go back upon the spring and bounce from there, thats also why i want to try a heavier spring, although having preload would stop that i bet…

with the 32g there is little bounce and significant shot difference than anything heavier on the micro bottle, the 32g just wont catch the seer now… booooooo…

back to work!

no geniuses around here…. sorry.

My way of saying I dont have anything intelligent to add to this thread, but wanted to give my .02c anyway! 😆

Kuji,

I wonder how much bounce you would get if the mass of your bolt was the same as you hammer?

i get alot of bounce with heavier hammers, still looking for a heavier spring for my 32g

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