Future Condor Owner Looking For Tips
First of all I would like to say thank you to everyone as I have learned so much from everyone’s contributions on this forum. Currently I’m waiting for a Condor made by Tony with all of his mods and shroud and I’m wondering if anyone out here has one like this in .22?
If you do I was wondering if you could share the fruits of your labor as to best pellet and power settings for short, medium and most importantly the long range shots. I see that there are a lot of posts regarding this subject but not sure if they would apply to a fully tuned model by Tony. From reading it almost seems as if a chronograph is necessary to properly adjust but hoping to avoid this cost at this time.
So as I pace wearing a hole in my floors for this to arrive I thought I would try to get everything I need for that day. So any tips, links or advice would be greatly welcomed. Again, thanks for all the information you guys put out there.
Glenn
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Thanks Tony.
Not looking to mess with perfection and fully understand that you are setting it up to work at the most optimal settings. Being new to the AF guns I didn’t realize the effects of the power wheel that they so heavily advertise as the big bonus. I guess for someone who wants to play and continually tweak but not me. I want to pick it up and know that it’s going to work period!
Thanks Tony for everything,
Glenn
And there it is. The little bit of time i’ve been here, i already know this man has “been there, tested that”. I can’t wait till i have the coin to get him to operate on mine.
The Powerwheel is extremely over rated. It can be used to lower or increase the velocity, but it cannot maintain consistent velocity.
At any givin lower PW setting, as the tank pressure drops the hammer will be able to open the valve more and create more velocity.
I set my rifles up so that the hammer opens the valve fully at a specific PW, top hat setting and fill pressure.
When you get your rifle from me, it will be tottaly tuned to shoot at a specific fill pressure. All Chrony strings will be included.
If you feel the need to open the box, fill and immediately change the power wheel and top hat setting, then maybe my rifles are not for you.
What advice does Tony give when he ships these out? EDIT: You will need a chrony. I believe it’s a must.
Well not exactly. If you adjust the power wheel lower you will probably get a lower velocity, but it will not be balanced anymore. I would say just leave it how it comes. However, if you really want to change stuff, write down the exact tophat measurment and Power wheel setting before you fiddle with stuff, so you can always put it back.
Now that is something that I didn’t know and I thank you for bringing that to my attention.
From what you are saying that my gun will be an all balls out gun and the only way to control velocity is use the heaviest pellet possible? Everyone here is a wealth of knowledge and maybe someday I can share the fruits of my labor with you when I get this thing in my hands.
Looks like it’s going to be a long and interesting road ahead of me with this but at least an enjoyable one.
The power wheel does more than just change the velocity. It can completely screw up your consistency as well, it has to be matched with the Top hat setting.
I appreciate the comments and suggestions that are being made but there seems to be a misunderstanding. I chose to have Tony make something for me so I didn’t have to tinker with it. I’m an accuracy nut and constantly challenge myself when it comes to shooting. Not looking to take out pigs but I know I will have that capability if I want because I’ll have a tuned weapon to do it with.
When I spoke to Tony my requirements were simple and that was a performance machine where accuracy, power and quiet were my main objectives. Chose the .22 at this time but can easily add the .25 barrel at a later time when I want the option for raw knockdown power.
Is turning the power wheel on the side of the gun considered tinkering? My thought is that I would be able to adjust the power wheel to adjust to my shooting needs and conditions and just max the wheel out when I want. As everyone has written there are speed ranges that pellets prefer for the best accuracy and adjusting the PW seems to be the solution WITHOUT F’ing with Tony’s work.
Check out my post in the hunting section titled “To the Newbies”. Should be a required must read before joining.
DH
You hunt pigs with a .25 condor??? Damm ! 😯
At what ranges would it be effective and what speeds do you get with what weight balls?
Please dont construe that any other way… 😆 Should have put lead ball..
Hey Dude…..it’s worth the effort to replace whatever carpet and flooring you have worn out in anticipation. You are about to cradle in your arms one of the finest shootin’ Irons a man can lay his hands on. My AA 266 .25 Condor is my prized possession. 8)
Via Tony’s recommendation.. I do not adjust the power wheel. I had my .25 CUSTOM made by Tony for balls to the wall knockdown/Kill power to shoot 125 lb. feral pigs.
DO NOT SPEND YOUR MONEY ON A CUSTOM RIFLE AND THEN DECIDE TO TINKER WITH IT. THERE IS NO NEED FOR THAT!!
Keep us posted.
Dirty Harry
I AGREE. JUST UNWRAP, FILL THE TANK, SHOOT, MARVEL, ENJOY.
Things to have on hand:
JSB Exacts
Beeman Kodiacs
Predator polys (if you will be hunting)
AIR SOURCE
Chrony to fine tune PW for different pellets if desired.
You will receive a Condor in top shooting condition, shouldn’t really need any adjustments unless you just WANT to tinker with it.
Not planning on changing any settings with the exception of the power wheel in order to stay below super sonic with certain loads. I trust Tony from everything I have read but looking for people who have had his work in their hands and have come up with proven combinations.
Don’t jack with setting on your gun after tony ships it to you, you will just make it worse.
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No problem Glenn.
You are absolutely right. The PW is advertised as something you can just pick a power level shoot, change it again, shoot..change it again…
Its dissapointing when a new owner really counts on that.
Thanks, Will talk to you soon.
Tony