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fps-accuracy

I hear a lot about the new value and have seen the shot strings really fast and yet accuracy suffers at these speed’s , ❓ question is what is holding air rifles back is it the pellets the barrels what.New to all this just wondering. 🙄

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Jim W , use her in good health,everybody loves a pussy with a bang. lol . tz

quote Skybones:

quote DragonFlySlayer:

Hey Skybones…”You do have a air rifle don’t you?”
This is a air rifle site. You could shoot your cat and it would be cheaper. Just be sure and hit us with a photo. 🙂

My cat shoots back

Stole your kitty for my avatar, I just couldn’t resist! 😀

from what i understand but this could also be total bullshit…
with the inaccuracy of going transonic, is the sound barrier can be considered a bubble. when sonic the bubble is stretched and its folding is well behind the object which is why some sonic objects have no control upon its path. when transonic the bubble is collapsing and it will ‘slap’ the pellet because the applied drag is quick. that will lead the pellet to tumble. another oddity is sonic accuracy is picky on projectile design, because that effects the ‘bubble’ size and stretch.

but as YN pointed, the barrier is constant. and some noting about a dome pellet

if anyone thinks this contains some truth, tell me please… and i could elaborate if im right (minus the fancy terms)

No way Cat,… Youl shoot your eye out.

quote DragonFlySlayer:

Hey Skybones…”You do have a air rifle don’t you?”
This is a air rifle site.

yeah I got one or two! I might remind !”this is a air rifle site” Idiots are welcomed , I see you received your invitation. Don’t think of light post as weakness ! Some folks enjoy fun ,without 44 pages of mouth

quote DragonFlySlayer:

Hey Skybones…”You do have a air rifle don’t you?”
This is a air rifle site. You could shoot your cat and it would be cheaper. Just be sure and hit us with a photo. 🙂

My cat shoots back

Kind of reminds me of Chuck Yeager hitting back in his record flight. 😆

Hey Ninja… How did you come up with that name? “Yellow Ninja”
Are you in the US?
And thanks for explaining to me the action of pellets. I have heard that before but you made a little more practicle sense out of it I think. It has been said that Pellet design still lacks compared to today’s air rifles. Im not so sure I entirely believe this considering what else can be done? Unless the diablos or skirts can be made from some different material. I like lead though…
What if they could make a tracer pellet for our night time pleasure 😀

Just kidding…
Im a little bit out there but not that far out 😯

The sound barrier is the sound barrier no matter what your shooting, be it an airgun pellet, a .223, .308, cruise missile or a MiG29.

Powder burner bullets are stablised because of the amount of spin put on them (caused by rifling and the sheer speed).

Pellet stabilise via the drag of the skirt (rifling helps, but its the skirt mainly).

Its the skirt and the flat dome that screw up the accuracy when you start approaching the sound barrier, that nice neat skirt gets knocked around by the turbulence, while the sleek boattail powder burner bullet just cuts right through without much of a problem.

It also doesnt help that as soon as the pellet is fired its close to the sound barrier and then drops through it as it deaccelerates so is affected by the transition from sonic back to sub sonic flight more than a bullet… which will break the sound barrier before it leaves the barrel and likely never go back through it as it loses velocity unless your shooting REAL long distance.

I’m not even sure if its the actual crossing of the sound barrier that ruins accuracy, thats just what people say… I think its just the fast speed itself. Pellets are designed for relativly slow flight so even if no sound barrier was involved I doubt your bog standard pellet would do very well.

Oh yeah… You were telling me about the shroud job. A lot of shops will not do that but you mentioned that the Wolfy was threaded on the muzzle?…That Pomona air guns seems good but it sure is hard to get a hold of that guy. I bought my SCUBA Tank from him. He is good if you can catch him. Pomona and Arizona Air Guns I like. Again both places that Mr.226 pointed me to considering where I live. he helped steer me away from Pyrimyd and their lack of quality control that I have experienced. I just bought a BSA Lightning XL with a Center Point 3X12 compact since Pyrimyd dropped the ball on my TX-200 III. Greg from Arizona suggested the BSA Lightning in all my confusion when I asked. He said it was the most quiet they have ever had. And he was helpful with knowledge regarding the other Springers I was looking at and considering.

Hey Skybones…”You do have a air rifle don’t you?”
This is a air rifle site. You could shoot your cat and it would be cheaper. Just be sure and hit us with a photo. 🙂

Thanks Dragon! your right! this crazy cat needs more prep. She still thinks I’m her pet ! I think this cat is growing way to fast! She eats,fights, shits,comes back meaner,and takes a long nap. I don’t think your squirrill will have a chance in a couple of hours. tz

My Wolf is a .22 and she is away having a new shroud fitted.

hey TeflonTron:
So how is your blooming Airwolf mate?
Can you show us a picture?
Do you have any photos of some target groups on paper?

That was a .177 right?
Thanks for the insight with the barrier necessities 😛

Ok Thanks Mr. TeflonTron
As far as my squirrel goes
Skybones
I am afraid that my squirrel’s balls may acceed the capacity of a normal household. And right now they appear to be blue so this is out of the question in the name of public safety. Please see attached link for further instructions.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd318/DragonFlySlayer/SeeTheseNuts.jpg

TeflonTron:
We have heard of Olympic Champion match Target shooters.. But have there been really any names? Any body’s photo on a cover of a major magazine or news paper as “World Champion Air gunner” Is there?…

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Dragon, Hi, I was wondering? can I borrow your squirril for a little while? You see ,my kids talked me into letting them get a kitten. That was 4 months ago. I don’t much care for cats, and this ones, on my only nerve. I think if I had your squirril , I could fix the pecking order around here. My kids kitten, Now a full throttle Cat! thinks my dog is her pet. In fact she thinks I’m her full time pet! Please let me borrow your squirril,if this crazy cat kills it! I’ll give you the cat! What do you say? tz

Yes, Adam’s Career is a .22 caliber. All pellets and all projectiles have a barrier that they don’t like to pass, and that is why most suggest to keep away from 1100fps and perhaps even keep it under 1000fps for optimum results.

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