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Food for thought.

Got a question Guy’s. If you adjust the TH at a low PW number, as Adam suggests, instead of the PW that you normally would shoot, would that help control the number of shots needed after re-charging to return to “normal” velocity? I ask this because of the number of shots{38} it took after my last re-charge{2800 psi} to get back to normal velocity{1085 range}.
I hear a lot about weaker/stronger springs and heavier/ lighter hammers, what’s that about and does that relate to my first question?

Thanks,
Mike17670 ❓

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Adam, if I take a pic and post it here can you tell just by looking at it from the outside if it’s the old or new one?

Sav,

If you have the original Condor valve then you have to take that into account.

As for the TH adjusting. I just turn it 1/4 and shoot, then repeat until it is shooting consistent and at a good velocity.

And another question….When you make these adjustments do you do it when your gun is in its sweet spot? My gun gets better and better the closer i get to around 2200, anything over 2500 and i can crank the p.w. all the way and not get the velocity i know she is capable of with any given pellet.

Adam when you adjust the top hat do you do it in 1/4 turns 1/2 turns or what is the method? Also how tight do you tighten the allen heads so as not to do any damage?

You can do it that way. But the PW is the gross adjustment and the TH is the fine tune adjustment. We are looking for a ideal balance between the hammer spring and valve spring.

By finding the approximate MAX PW setting you can then tune the valve with the tophat. Then you can change the PW as you desire.-`

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Once you fine tune the Top Hat, will the power wheel still be able to control the velocity like it was stock?

It should actually do better with a properly tuned TH… 😉 Meaning less erratic shots from too much air…

Once you fine tune the Top Hat, will the power wheel still be able to control the velocity like it was stock?

What I would reccomend it to turn up the PW until you get no further velocity increase….then fine tune the Top Hat for velocity and consistency.

Are you asking why adjust the TH at a low PW setting?

My ‘guess’ would be, if you set the PW at a high number and adjusted the TH, when you lowered the PW you wouldn’t get a full shot of compressed air because the baseline for the hammer’s striking force was set higher and thus not affecting the TH as much as it should…

In other words setting the TH at too high PW number will give a too weak charge of air at lower PW numbers… The PW controls the preload on the hammer spring, which allows you to regulate the amount of force on the TH.

A stronger spring and a heavier hammer will get a larger charge of air out of the tank when it strikes the TH…

Setting the TH controls the amount of movement and thus air that comes out of the tank since the hammer stops against the TH, the more the TH sticks out the more it gets hit and depressed… Too much and it is just overcharging the breach and wasting air…

Wow, I think I actually confused myself in all this… 😕

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