November 18, 2007 at 12:16 am #809
I read of one person here using this setup,is there anyone else using the talon CO2 adapter with HPA paintball tanks.In my area there is no scuba shops and one paintball shop right on my way home from work,but he wont touch my talon tank.November 18, 2007 at 1:46 am #27788
I have used the co2 adapter with HPA, it works pretty well. I do not yet have a chronograph, but I am sure it shoots faster than co2, but not fast than a standard talon tank (I have an SS). Oh yeah, I have used both a low pressure and a high pressure HPA; dont even waste your time with the low pressure tank. High pressure HPA tanks are usually regulated to around 800-900 psi. Last week I took apart a spare HP regualtor and removed the large spring in the housing, big difference! I still can not get as much power as my standard talon tank, maybe because the co2 adapter uses the condor valve and I am using the standard talon setup; I plan to try the standard valve in the co2 adapter one of these days or maybe buy a condor weight. 😆 The good thing about using HPA tanks is you have a pressure gauge. I am really bad about keeping track of total shots fired.November 18, 2007 at 2:38 am #27790
Both of my HPA reg. are set to 1,150 psi,as used in my other carbine and it shoots 850fps with 18 in. barrel.The reason for asking is because of avail. of fill stations,and as much as i shoot ,the hand pump would loose its appeal real fast. You are right about the gauge,i don,t understand why talon does not add a 1/8 port to add gauge,for a quick visual of remaining tank pressure.November 22, 2007 at 2:19 pm #27944sirjeigoParticipant
It works very well with my Airforce Condor CO2 adapter 🙂
It shoots CP 10.5 gr .177 pellets at 860 fps and CP 14.3 gr .22 pellets at 840 fps. Not bad I think.November 22, 2007 at 8:18 pm #27964
About how many shots per fill are you guys getting?
What is the size of the hpa tank?
thanksNovember 26, 2007 at 3:41 am #28125matteuszParticipant
You can see in the pic that sirjeigo is using a 45 cu inch 4500 Psi Tank. I am not sure how many shots you would get as it depends on the volume used per shot but I would imagine at least 40-50 with that setup.
any comments? Anyone have any safetly concerns with higher pressures? Could you regulate up to say 1500 or 2000 psi without worries of bursting the adapter?November 26, 2007 at 4:22 am #28129
I am thinking out loud and asking,
Is the CO2 adaptor equipped with the condor valve and the 3300 psi burst disk? I have disassembled my co2 adaptor and am wondering if I can screw the valve part into another 3000PSi tank (if the threads match) and have a condor tank and valve for my SS
Just a thought.November 26, 2007 at 3:23 pm #28137
The co2 adapter does use the condor valve (old style unfortunately). Last month I took apart my co2 adapter and tried it on my HPA tank………the threads do not match, that would be great if they did. Maybe the tank can be rethreaded to accept the valve assembly?November 27, 2007 at 12:29 am #28163
Why not install HPA tank in co2 adapter like above pix,thats what i,m planning on doing, unless i,m not seeing the whole picture.November 27, 2007 at 5:10 am #28174quote Paulj.:
I do not know, I thought about it but then I said if I am going to spend the money why not just get a condor tank? I have a 44 cf 4500 tank on the way.
I have the same thoughts with getting a .25 barrel, why not just buy another air gun, I’d be half way there, and I can keep my ss short and quiet.November 27, 2007 at 10:06 am #28184
The co2 adapter works perfectly well with any HPA tank, the only problem is that HPA tanks are regulated, so full tank pressure is not available at the co2 adapter valve. I wanted more power so I took apart my regulator and by trial and error now have an unregulated hpa tank that is attached to the co2 adapter. The only thing now is the co2 adapter can no longer be unscrewed from the tank until it gets below 1000 psi. I have filled my hpa tank with the co2 adapter still attached just like a regular air force tank and it works great, the only thing is that my 47 cu in tank takes a much longer time to fill with the AF pump. You sure have a lot more shots and a visual gauge which is nice. Some people may not like the look or the extra weight. Currently I am expreimenting with a 9 oz co2 tank with a pressure gauge installed instead of the burst disc. I think the co2 tank has a 1800 psi max stamped on the bottle and I am unsure if I could go higher, I have got it to 1500 psi no problem so far. Oh year, the co2 adapter I have has been tested to 3000 psi according to my AF pump gauge 😆November 27, 2007 at 6:16 pm #28207
Good info, thanksNovember 27, 2007 at 11:35 pm #28236
Check out these tanks, rated to 3000psi, i got one, tank only ,added my own valve.December 6, 2007 at 6:13 pm #28762sturgellParticipant
Is there a way to up the regulated pressure on a paintball HPA tank to 3000? Different spring? Seems like the logical way to go about having a regulated AF gun.December 7, 2007 at 12:51 pm #28800colinbParticipant
im currently looking at these tanks to make a valve for so you can have 4500/5000 psi as the full firing pressure
should help considerably in getting the FPS higher when using heavy grains and bigger bores
just not sure how heavy or strong the hammer is going to have to be to get the valve to fully open
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