Bench shooting help

Hi guys. First off I would like to say this is a great forum, I have gotten tons of help from here in the month I have had my gun. My hats off to you guys.
I have a .25 Condor and have been working on adjusting the tophat and power wheel for about a week now, and I think I have it where I want it. I was trying to do some shooting for groups tonight at 30 yards. I was using a standard setup, a bench with sandbags front and rear of the gun. At 30 yards it was all I could do to barely get a 1 inch group, which is pretty poor in my opinion. I got this wild idea and tried shooting a couple of groups from the prone position with just one sandbag under the front of the gun, and shot groups under 1/2 inch.
I was wanting to know how you guys shoot for groups. To me this is a normal setup for shooting, and I can not figure out why this gun would not group off a bench but while shooting prone the gun performs well.

Thanks for your help in advance.


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Well after messing with it this past weekend, I’ve come to the conclusion that I must have a trucks coil spring in my tank. Although I still can’t convince myself it’s a bad thing. I get a boat load of good powerful shots filling to 2000 and refilling at 1000. The hardest part for me is knowing when to start adjusting the P.W. to keep it as close as possible to 950FPS. I can also fill to 3000, set the P.W. to the max, start off weak and adjust the wheel down as she comes into the sweet spot. Right now I’m at .070 (from .088 factory setting) going to leave it there till I try some Kodiaks.

Thanks. Will be “all over it” this weekend.

Mine is at .059, which gives me the ability to shoot Kodiaks from just above 900 fps on PW 0 up to 1040 fps at PW 11. I don’t know if this is the perfect setting yet, as I am not sure Kodiaks will shoot very accurate past about 950 fps. But after spending a week adjusting the tophat, I am ready to just shoot some groups and maybe a critter or two. I have been following your posts, good luck with adjusting your tophat.


Just out of curiousity, what top hat setting did you end up with?

Spent some time shooting this morning trying to follow what WOK had said. Also reviewed your post about POI changes in the quick reference section. I was not putting any pressure on the foregrip before, but at times would rest my head a little too hard on the tank. This was causing the gun to shoot high, and normally off to the right. I was able to shrink the groups a little with WOK’s advice, but still not as much as I would like.
Finally got feed up with it and stripped the gun completely down and gave it a thorough cleaning. The barrel was full of lead, took me quite a while to clean it. Put it back together and I couldn’t believe the difference. I believe the combination of a clean barrel and now the proper shooting technique has made all the difference.


Can you say, er—-bipod? 😉


When you are bench shooting keep the bag under the foreend. If you have it on the frame it will cause it to interfere with the barrel inside. Also hold it very lightly. Shouldering the gun hard with cause the tank put a force into the frame and will throw accuracy off.

1. Keep forward rest on forend
2. Hold her lightly

Let us know how it goes. Also make sure your barrel screw are not loose.

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