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Another day out with the Rapid .25 (pics and video)

Since i last shot my RAPID .25, i haven’t had the chance to get out and do much shooting. My wife and i are still having withdrawal symptoms since coming back home to CALIFORNIA after holiday vacationing in native TEXAS. I had been tinkering with my Dragon Slayer and my Rapid to get the utmost from them. My wife told me that i needed to put the guns down for a while and try something different.

So i did, I tried feeding my son his first bowl of cereal……….

HE HE

Anyway, i had been talking to a guy named SWIFT (on another forum) about upgraded Dragon Slayer parts and i finally decided to send the parts to SWIFT so he could do the machining for me. I seriously cannot wait to get the parts back and put that gun together and blast some targets.

Now, for the Rapid. I had previously taken the internals out of the VORTEX and opened the holes to 19/64″ or .296″. Up from .275″, and the results were much improved accuracy. Since then, i had wanted to thoroughly clean the barrel and smooth it over with some BORE PASTE. I removed the scope, scope rings, and barrel and then removed the vortex internals so i could clean the barrel without gettng fouling on or in the VORTEX internals. So with the barrel thoroughly cleaned, i began my 65 strokes with the bore paste. After that, i thoroughly cleaned the barrel again to remove all traces of the bore paste. I then grabbed my bore light and took a looksie down the bore and, it looked super clean and bright as a sunny day in July. I also checked the factory muzzle crown just to take a look. I then finished up by FIRMING up the bolts that hold the barrel in the receiver.

After all that, i was anxious to get out and do some target shooting/hunting especially since i knew the weather was gonna be 75 degrees and clear skies. I drove to my local spot and set up 3 paper targets at approximately 61.5 yrds according to my nikon rangefinder. Well, i was trying for 60 yards but, 1.5 more means nothing to a precision adult airgun:lol:. I had just purchased 1 tin of domed .25 Eun Jins to try out also. I heard they were decent in the Rapid. 1st i took 12 practice/fouling shots to, in my mind, “season the bore”, after the cleaning. I then topped back off to 3200 psi and refilled my magazine with 5 DOMED Eun Jins. Here is my best group with the EJ’s at 61.5 yrds.

The Domed EJ’s shoot better in the Rapid than the Pointed Eun Jins do. Maybe i should have brought out some of those too to shoot. Especially since I thoroughly cleaned the bore. Anyway, now it’s time for the Kodiaks. I topped off at 3200 psi and filled my mag with 6 shots. This was my best group of the day with the Kodiaks. The groups could easily be covered with a nickel.

Mind you, i had been shooting for a while now and i was kinda bored with the paper punchin so i broke out the new SPINNER that i bought at MAC-1’s. I set it up at the same 61.5 yrds and just began peppering the thing with 31 gr Kodiaks. Now, you will notice 3 shots in the head of the chicken spinner, i purposely shot it there 3 times in a row just to see if the pellets would hit the mark. They did easily. The gun was so accurate and fun to shoot that, the spinner target came with a RED bullseye sticky 1″ dot. I was acutally shooting off the red sticky target dot that was on the spinner. WOW!

So after popping that thing for a while, i decided to shoot up some of my other targets. Here is a BUD LIGHT bottle that i found in the desert. I decided to see if i could hit through the center of the bottle cap and blow out just the back of the bottle. Now, when the shot broke, my crosshairs were just low and center of the cap. It actually was aimed at the lip or rim of the bottle, but, on the cap. The pellet entered the cap just on the inside of the inner lip and ricocheted UP inside the bottle and broke out the top and back. Just watched the video carefully. The shot was MADE at 61.5 yrds.

Assessment of the RAPID: There definitely was an improvement in accuracy between this time and the last time i went out with the Rapid and shot groups. Now, not to be biased or anything but, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE MY RAPID. I honestly could get rid on all my other airguns (no, i’m not really going to) and keep just the Rapid .25 and DS 50. With this gun, i really don’t need anything else. I mean, i can target/FT shoot and hunt with the same gun. With all the mods that i have done, and the fact that it is a well designed and built gun, this gun is EFFORTLESS to shoot. That is the way it should be and i am truly happy. There were some issues with the gun in the beginning and they were minor but, because i am a tinkerer at heart, i did not mind improving on the flaws that the factory let slip by. They also helped me to learn even more about the gun than i previously did. And yes……I still love my CONDOR .25, she is a 80 FPE beast.

Pellet choices: I shot some of these pellets before in my rapid when there was no more clipping but, i did not shoot them this weekend. The Crow Magnums are just what everyone thought……..They SUCK at distance. I am actually too embarrased to post any pics of the group. It had to have been like 4-5″ at 61.5 yrds. But, i also am pushing them at 1000 FPS so, my assessment of them may no be very fair to the pellet. To shoot them any slower, i would have to tinker with my gun………AND I AINT DOING THAT. They for some reason shoot better in my CONDOR.

The Pointed Eun Jins can be used in the well made single shot tray (thanx SWIFT) and shoot decently out to 50 yrds for hunting. These are not target pellets. They just aren’t tack drivers like the kodiaks are and they are in 3rd place behind the Eun Jin Domes in my gun (Rapid .25).

The Eun Jin Domes are acceptable plinking pellets but, are really more of a hunting pellet. Like the Pointed Eun Jins, the domes have that extra WEIGHT and smash anything they hit. They also WHISTLE through the air with their own unique sound. I will try and shoot some video of them whistling downrange next time as compared to other .25 cal pellets that i have.

The Ram Points really sucked in my gun and i could not hit the broad side of a barn with them. Now, i heard that they are accurate but at about 800 fps. Well, my gun can’t shoot 31 gr Kodiaks at 930 and shoot 27.1 gr Ram Points at 800. My R25 also pushes them at 1000 fps like the CM’s. But the CM’s are more accurate in my gun.

I really hate to say that a pellet is inaccurate because, i know that a lot of times, you just might have to tune your gun to a certain velocity to get the most accuracy from an individual pellet. I think the process works with better results when you have your gun tuned for say, 16 gr JSB’s at 950 FPS and you then shoot a 21 kodiaks and it goes about 890 fps. Both of those velocities work for each of those pellets. But, if you gun is tuned to shoot a HEAVY pellet like lets say at 28 gr Eun Jin at 950 FPS then you shoot something like a 18 gr Crow Magnum or a 14.3 gr CP at the same power setting, you might be pushing the CM’s or CP’s at 1100 FPS+ and the accuracy will suffer greatly. So my point is, maybe some of these pellets would shoot better if the guns were tuned to shoot them at proper velocities. The JSB’s, KODIAKS, and Eun Jins are the only 3 pellets that i know of that can be pushed at 400 fps and then up to 1000 fps and still be accurate. Maybe we just need some new projectile designs.
Air Bullets that is.

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Photo22- just got the parts for the DS in tonight. BUT!!!!, i just messed up another part which i now gotta have machined by the same guy. DAMNIT, DAMNIT, DAMNIT…ok, better now. I talked to my machinist and he said no problem, he will have a new 1 for me in no time.

GWBWANA – Man, that is a hard question. Me and the CONDOR are MARRIED and she is a GOOD woman. Me and the Rapid are dating seriously and i have fallen in love rather quickly. So as you can see, i gotta problem, i am foolin around with 2 sexy guns that i am in love with. he he he he he he eh eh. Naaah, seriously, my .25 Condor is a real workhorse. That gun has shot a lot of things and she has been through numerous transformations, thanks to the guys at TOG. The rapid is WAAAAAAY more refined and more accurate and more conservative with the air consumption. She is pushing 31 gr Kodiaks at 930 FPS for 60 FPE. Her action is glass smooth. The Condor is a brute at 80 FPE shooting 42 grain PEJ’s at 930 fps on setting 6.8. She also is decently accurate and i can’t seem to miss with her. I have both because i wanted to make sure the rapid was everything i thought it would be when i got it. I have had the CONDOR for a while now and the rapid is pretty new. The Condor can also reach out past 100 yrds with some authority. It would be hard to choose between the two for a lot of reasons. As for the Dragon Slayer, i have always wanted a 50 cal BIG BORE (.308 and up). Just to have 1. I owned a Career 9mm ultra before but, i got rid of it when the DS came out. . The DAQ’ n .308 was my first choice but, it takes like 2 years to get 1. So, when the DS came about, it was my chance to own my 2nd big bore. I knew the power was not anywhere near the DAQ’s but, tinkering and modding is a passion of mine so, the DS would also serve as a modding platform for me. So far, i have gotten the Thompson Center 175 gr. roundballs in .50 cal up to 705 FPS for 190+ FPE. Stock was about 600+ fps. Now, i am having a NEW VALVE STEM made and some heavier mainsprings and my hammer altered slightly to fit in a DEBOUNCER setup. I want to up the power even more for 2 reasons. 1, because i am going on a hog hunt in april in oklahoma, and i will be bringing along the DS as my primary hunting rig. 2nd, well, cause i love to tinker and work on guns and i wanna see how much i can up the anti without having to do too much of an OVERHAUL. In stock form, the DS can easily put 5 big 50 cal holes into the same group at 50+ yrds. 3 shots will make 1 big cloverleafed hole. Hope i answered all you questions. If not, feel free to ask anything at anytime….ok, not ANYTHING…HE HE.

Rob…..what up?

Bodi, he he he. You are jokin but hey, that is a good idea you had. To tell you the truth, this is what i do. YES, I AM PUTTING MY BUSINESS OUT THERE 😆 . I am a member of 2 Credit unions. They both do personal loans. The credit union at my company i work for, allows me to to take out any type of loan whether it be a personal or real estate or a automobile loan and pay it back through my payroll. So that is exactly what i did, i got the loan and have them take out 100 bucks a week outta my check until the load is paid in full. And i build my credit to. I am probably gonna do the same thing when i buy a compressor. My wife only always see’s money going into the account and i don’t have to remember to write a check to pay that bill. it automatic

gwbwana, that Rapid is his baby, but i believe he loves them all. Its the .25 Condor which sent him down the road to the Rapid.

Tofast, i see your secret now, dam my febble mind. I have always found it easier to let the wife take care of the check book. I see the error of my ways. Might be i have to set up a secret AG account, i might not get layed for a while if i purchased a $1700+ AG, nahh theres no “might not” about it. It would have to be done under the cover of “ignorance is bliss” Although she is going to nursing school and will be a RN in another year or so 🙂 I see extra funds coming in the house in th not to distant future.

Looks great Tofaz… good to see you around here!

If you had to chose between the Rapid and your .25 Condor which would it be and why do you have both.. I am also interested in a Dragon Slayer.. what are you having done to it and why.. Finally what are your thoughts on the Dragon Slayer and why did you chose this gun over others.
Thanks

Tofazfou, that was some great reading and great shooting. I sure would like to hear about the Dragon Slayer when you get it back together.

Walk-on..he he he, i am laughing so hard at the way you put it. guess i should exercise my feeding hand more and my trigger finger less 😆

Bodi, my wife has no idea of how much that rapid cost us. SHE NEVER WILL EITHER 😆 i too thought i would ever spend that much money on an AIRGUN but….???? I have not popped any jacks yet but hopefully soon……like this weekend. And yes, my kid will learn his way around all guns….air or powerderburner. Pistol and rifles.

TEF, thanx for the compliments. And yes, that 1700 dollar rifle is easy to work on. Moreso than some of the 600 dollar guns.

POI, yeah, i miss making the post and going out and doing the shooting. Got a few things in the works so, i will be making more post soon.

Jooleyen, it is a cheap lil ole Sony DSC-S40 4.1 megapixel digital picture camera. I have a 2 gig SD card in it and it takes ok lil videos when i wanna do a video of something up close. it only has 3 zoom. So it works up close.

Thanks for showing that awesome video Tofaz. What camera are you using?

BTW, your kid is a stud!

darn good to see ya round Tof.

great read. cute lil dude.

Miss reading the desert hunt posts. don’t be a stranger.

Thanks for the great review, Ced. The Rapid really is a great gun even when there are a few little issues with it from the factory sometimes, but the ease with which they can be fixed is the charm.

Great picture of the little one too: congratulations once again.

Please come back to the forum. 😀

Hi there Tofast, excellant review of your newer rig. Makes a guy want to start saving his quarters, would take awile. Or dip into the kids college fund 😆 . If i got 1 i’d probably make a little bed for it next to my side of the bed. The wife would be jealous, and the gun likely the victim of a jealous wife. 😆 😆 . Glad you’ve got it right where you want it.

Seriously, someday maybe if the US dollar ever recovers enough to at least equal the Euro. Thanks for stopping by. Thats enough with the recruiting. We’ve lost enough good members to that Rapid rage 🙂

Have you had it out testing on jacks yet?? Your boy is still cute, I know yours and mine will grow with a AG in therre hands. So what age do you figure you’ll let the little guy out with you shooting?? I have been thinking this myself, but haven’t a answer. Hes 2yrs, 4mths and can’t wait till hes around 6-7. But his age now is fun too, mostly. Just geting into the terrible 2’s, but not that bad. Little sucker learned how to climb out of the crib sat. nite 🙁 3 times i had to go in and put him back in bed. the first time he was scared. I get in the room and he is “help, help” trying to climb back in. 2nd time hes on his chair looking through his books. 3rd time a little tap on the bottom ” stay in bed now and go to sleep” seemed to work. hes “be nice, Bodhi be nice” 8) He was still up but didn’t climb back out 😆 😆 . The age can be a trial of patience, but i love seeing him advance, learn more, his excitement over seeing pieces of construction equipment. He loves Dozers, backhoes, excavators, loaders, dump trucks i think maybe a future operator. I’ll be pushing more towards design enginner of said equipment. Have fun with your little one Tofast. Ya, hes topped off.

Great post and a good looking son you got there! You know the when you feed him the food is suppose to go into that hole under his nose….not around it?

Rapids are the bomb. Just wish they did not cost so much. I should have bought one when they were $1200…lol

Good to see you here. Visit more often.

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