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Both replies are dead on! A longer than stock frame (extention) for 12″ bbl is overkill. Although the 12″bbl in my SS is extremely accurate(and the short frame) enables fast target acquisition, I like the power and increased foot per sec. of the longer barrel in my condor for long range work! I’m waitin on the brains around here, to come up with a shroud that looks more like a bull barrel for the condor. Christmas wish list?