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Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby WarBoom72 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:55 pm

So about 4 weeks ago I saw Ernest Rowes post on the yellow about his 7 fpe cricket and the shot of it with the Clague LDC and shroud amazed me, I HAD TO HAVE ONE! So a short email correspondence to both Ernest and Neil I ordered one.


The new shroud is at least 50% quieter than the stock one with Hoots hole mod.
Its hard to describe exactly how quiet the LDC is. Its quieter than Hollywood quiet. Its much quieter than a .22 cb with a can. Its as quiet as a mouse fart.
I'll post a YouTube video of it shooting with and without the LDC later.

The fit and finish is beyond excellent. The alum work is very fine and smooth. The fit to the barrel is perfect, its actually almost too tight which is good. People with a detail oriented eye will see than the weave of the carbon isn't identical but that was done on purpose because I didn't want to wait any longer for the matching weave to be ordered and show up. So I got the shroud and LDC a week earlier and don't mind it at all.

Stock cricket is 27"
W/ Neil shroud 32.5"
W/ Neil shroud and LDC 41.75"

Shroud is 16.25x1.25"
LDC is 10x2"
Shroud and LDC is 25.5"


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Stock for comparison

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Just the shroud with the thread protector installed

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Shroud and LDC

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Shroud and LDC with the stock shroud for comparison

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Stock shroud versus Neil shroud

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Stock vrs Neil LDC and shroud

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All 3 size comparison

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Shroud to LDC. Nice and tight!

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Barrel opening in shroud

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Crown on thread protector

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Shroud to thread protector. Clean and flush.

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1/2-28 threads on shroud (might have to spin a .22 can on to see what happens)
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby WarBoom72 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:05 pm

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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby Fast and Danger » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:11 am

You might as well just poke the squirrel with it instead of shooting it :D

I'm sure it's more quiet, but what is the point of getting nice compact bull pup rifle and adding a three foot shroud to it?

To each its own I guess.
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby ON_THE_EDGE » Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:48 am

F & D sorta kinda has a point, but just think how long it would be if it was a standard configuration rifle.
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby WarBoom72 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:14 am

You have a very good point and that's why the LDC is removalable. In the field I'm going to use just the shroud but for backyard, benchrest or nighttime shooting ill screw on the LDC. The shroud by its self is only a couple inches longer but is much more efficient at quieting down the muzzle blast.
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby Fast and Danger » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:16 am

Its nice that it is removable. Is shroud only more quiet than stock one?

Does POI change at all when you attach the front portion?
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby Demp223 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:27 am

What are you using for a backstop for backyard plinking? No matter how quiet the gun the impact is the tell.
Even my rubber mulch backstop pellet impact is slightly louder than 25 muzzle.
The 22 pellet strike is much louder than muzzle.
Impacts on rats with either caliber is significantly louder than muzzle.
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby WarBoom72 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:04 pm

The neil shroud is at least 50% quieter and the poi does not shift at all, which surprised me.


And for a backstop I'm using a duct putty pellet trap, it is perfectly silent.
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby Fast and Danger » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:46 pm

WarBoom72 wrote:The neil shroud is at least 50% quieter and the poi does not shift at all, which surprised me.


And for a backstop I'm using a duct putty pellet trap, it is perfectly silent.


Nice!

How much is setup like yours?
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby WarBoom72 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:51 pm

The shroud and LDC was $310 delivered
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby meech1456 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:40 pm

Warboom,

I am also loving my NC shroud. It is the same as yours except I did not have him add a threaded part. Like you said, it is quieter than with the stock shroud.

thanks for sharing,

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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby jdr724 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:22 am

How about a video so we can hear the difference between the standard shroud and NC shroud?
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby WarBoom72 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:34 pm

That was my plan but the valve broke later that day ill have a replacement tomorrow and will take a video
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby renval » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:30 am

Nice! Can you post a pic of the rifle with the LDC and shroud, I would like to see how does it look your entire set up, thank you. Btw my atlas bipod is on it's way! :D
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby WarBoom72 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:51 pm

Photo of it LDC and shroud
Tuned it back to 895fps after the valve spring install

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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby Exziver » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:39 am

Looks great!

How's about the ping? Did it do anything for that?
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby WarBoom72 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:27 pm

The ping hasn't got any louder, but now the gun is so quiet it is more noticeable. I think the ping is only in the space between the reg and valve so hoots neoprene cover should fix that
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby renval » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:39 pm

Looks amazing! I'm getting a .22 cal but I have to make my mind, Cricket or R3m, I love my .25 cal Cricket, she is a tack driver! But the waiting time for the Edgun kills me, will see, decisions decisions
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby renval » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:44 pm

A .25 cal shroud+LDC will work on .22 gun, I mean the performance will decrease?
I would like to use it for both guns, I guest I have to stick to the Crickets if I want to do that.
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Re: Silent but Deadly Cricket thanks to Neil Clague!

Postby WarBoom72 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:28 pm

Ya I would assume you would have to have a pair of crickets to use it on both. But, you could have a .22 and a .25 thread on end cap made so it will be perfect fit for both
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